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GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by zeroer »

StephenConnell wrote: post #154
Daneel_ wrote: post #119

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I find the audio cues particularly useful - turn them on, set them loud and learn them well. Before this I used to be really frustrated as well, so I completely sympathise. I motorbike, mountain bike, rock climb and race cars with the gopro, and the only thing I pay attention to is the audio cues.

Same here. Audio queues only. No one wants to wait for you to get your camera in the right mode or pair... Not to mention battery life of the remote and the camera. I have never gotten the remote to work on an actual trip. Only while testing at home.

"cue"

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by Fuzzwah »

mikestew wrote: post #58
mtw wrote: post #31

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I haven't read your account. What's bad about GoPro? Note : I have an action camera, but it's from Garmin

My main complaint is that it's difficult to determine camera state. My main use case is having it mounted to a motorcycle where I can reach the buttons but can't safely or easily see the indicator LEDs. Is it on? Is it recording? I have some awesome videos of me sitting on a curb in front of a gas station drinking a Gatorade because I thought it was recording the whole time, and it turns out that when I pulled up and…

A skydiver / hardware hacker I know has a solution to the "am I recording?" issue:

http://turnedon.camera/

It is a visual status indicator.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by umeshunni »

initram wrote: post #158
ge96 wrote: post #136

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Not 180, but you could buy that $15,000.00 go pro camera set for 360 video haha Although I think truly immersive 360 video would require not only stereoscopic eg. Dual cameras per fov, but also that new camera technology that captures at multiple depths of field. Litho or something don't know what it's called. Then you can focus on different focal points of the video like up close or super faraway

You're thinking of the Lytro light field cameras. https://lytro.com/

No - OP is probably thinking of this GoPro rig:

https://www.engadget.com/2015/09/08/gopro-odyssey-rig-for-ju...

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by ge96 »

umeshunni wrote: post #163
initram wrote: post #158

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You're thinking of the Lytro light field cameras. https://lytro.com/

No - OP is probably thinking of this GoPro rig: https://www.engadget.com/2015/09/08/gopro-odyssey-rig-for-ju...

Both of them, the Lytro camera captures multiple depths of field. Combine that with stereoscopic 360 cameras so that $15,000.00 camera might as well make that at least $30,000 now with twice as many cameras. That's hard though, where does it focus? Screw that instead lets make a 360 phased array grid camera so we can rapidly capture everything

Edit: actually the phased array crap I thew in there doesn't make sense, only of you're meeting an em wave not receiving.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by totalZero »

jkestner wrote: post #83
NumberCruncher wrote: post #3

Company misses revenue expectations or revenue expectation misses reality? Hmm...

For better or worse, it's partially on the company to manage expectations. Amazon does a great job of this, which is why it can get away with minimal profit most quarters.

Agreed. Managing expectations into earnings is a large part of a CFO, treasurer, or other investor relations officer's job.

I do admit that it's necessarily hard for GoPro to do this, because they're a high-tech, discretionary consumer product -- the competitor landscape is always shifting and advancing, and a ton of factors affect consumer spending choices. GoPro is not a networking company with ten big and slow-moving clients. Something as simple as gas price hikes (less discretionary budget), or a new wearable product released by a different company (drains from "cool new toy" budget), could affect their sales.

Stocks like GPRO, FIT, etc are really hard to analyze, for these reasons and others.

Then again, I guess you could say that makes the task of managing expectations all the more important.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by totalZero »

spyspy wrote: post #156

I'm almost positive threads about GoPro are stalked by Xaomi employees. Almost every comment is a plug.

Funny you should mention plugs for Xiaomi. I picked up the Mi Smart Socket Plug the other day...have to say, I love it. I can set timers and remotely control my appliances from the comfort of my phone. Best of all, I don't have to interfere with the appearance and design of my home's interior.

http://xiaomi-mi.com/mi-smart-home/xiaomi-mi-smart-socket-pl...

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by totalZero »

mikestew wrote: post #35
adamnemecek wrote: post #16

They went from 86.97 on Oct 4, 2014 to 11.94 now. Isn't looking too good.

I remember having an alert set for if GPRO ever bounced up from (let's say) $45. It hit that number and never bounced, it just kept on going down. I consider my GoPro to be my worst tech purchase in the last ten years, but as a mostly technical trader I'll occasionally (though rarely) buy a stock despite my feelings about their offerings. But GPRO demonstrates that, once again, I should stick to companies that sell t…

Have you read One Up on Wall Street, by Peter Lynch? He talks about using your feelings about a company's products as a component of investment decision-making. You may find it interesting.

https://www.amazon.com/One-Up-Wall-Street-Already/dp/0743200...

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by PKop »

odbol_ wrote: post #127
PKop wrote: post #123

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A company that built lasting products of high quality wouldn't earn profits? Hmmmmmm[0] [0] https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AAAPL&fstype=ii&ei=...

haha is this a joke? Apple basically forces you to upgrade your phone every two years, by releasing a mandatory OS update that makes older phones slow as dirt. I'm talking about my mom's 1957 Ford pickup that still runs great today. I'm talking about the Ostrisizer can opener from the 1970s that my family still uses in their kitchen. 5 years lifetime for a $800 product is not "built to last".

I had my MacBook Pro for 6 years before I upgraded, and didn't really need to. Are there many better examples within the computer / smartphone industry than Apple? Capitalism allows $1000 to buy progressively more powerful computers year after year.

Oh but you're talking about pickup trucks and can-openers. Oh ok my bad.

Were those created by socialist / communist economies now?

What are we even talking about here? Did capitalist economies develop these things or not? Does the profit motive not motivate the auto company and can opener company to produce a better product?

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by totalZero »

jayjay71 wrote: post #77
giarc wrote: post #14

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I think GoPro suffers from two problems. 1. Many people buy these camera's that never use them, or use them a few times but realize editing videos takes longer than they hoped it would. So after a while of non use, they sell the camera. 2. They built a good product, one that lasts and is therefore good for the used market. People are comfortable buying a used GoPro because they know it's rugged and well built. So GoP…

Shred Video ( http://shredvideo.com/ ) is trying to solve the editing problem.

Phenomenal!

Do you know of anything similar that is available for Android?

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by totalZero »

epistasis wrote: post #12
djsumdog wrote: post #8

Why is not selling enough a bad thing? You make a good product, everyone loves it and don't need another one? This is why I haven't replaced my original Pebble either. I remember Intel hitting this same type of market/stockholder crunch. Hello: not selling more stuff is A GOOD THING! It means your last generation was really good (well, if people are still using it and not buying another one). It means you can lower f…

If you're going to ask that, you also need to ask why needing to halt trading is a bad thing. "Good" and "bad" are value judgements that change in different contexts. A large component of stock price is the expectation of profits for share holders in the future. If those expectations change, and the stock price plummets, it's not necessarily good or bad in the sense of a product being good or bad, or a company being…

Needing to halt trading is not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes you see trading halts that precede large upside moves, and sometimes the stock doesn't move at all when it reopens.

Not all trading halts involve limit-down circuit breakers or short-sale restrictions.

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