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GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Perhaps the chinese clones are denting sales? I own two GoPros but I understand the clones are very nearly as good, for a much lower price.

Agree, one can easily study the clone's features, price and customer reviews here: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_12?url=search-alia... They use the same SOC, camera sensors. There are tons of HD Videos comparison reviews on Youtube.

Man you aren't kidding about those being clones. The packaging even looks similar.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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yes, you can sell your shares through other channels. everyone can do that. you can take your 30 shares of random company x to your mom and sign a contract with her buying the shares. anyone can do that. stock exchanges are private businesses with private rules about who can and can not use their servers. they're open from 9:30 to 5. if you want to buy during other hours, you better find someone to buy from. as far a…

So, Free market everywhere except our market? Sounds like Wall Street is having trouble living up to its rhetoric.

One aspect of a free market is that its up to you to decide whom to do business with.

Free market applies to every market participant equally. Your privilege is the counterparties obligation. Do you believe other market participants should be forced to buy your stock while the stock is obviously crashing just so you can get a favorable outcome?

And because you seem to be clouded by little man nerdrage: The stock market doesn't temporarily shut trading down to keep smalltime hobby gamblers out. They do this to prevent institutional investors from unloading in a hurry which would send macro signals that may signal that one market participant knows more than the others ("insider trading") which would then kick off an avalanche of tag-alongs who believe they have to sell as well, eventually moving the needle on the entire economy which would then cost the suckers who you are so desperately fighting for to lose their jobs. do you want that? good.

Google black friday if you want to know why. it is not done to sucker 2k live savings gamblers out of their money.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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So, I'm starting a VR project that's going to need 180-degree (or thereabouts) stereoscopic video. Ready to spend money on cameras and actually get started.

"Cool! This should be straightforward, everyone uses GoPro cameras for that, so a I'll need to buy two GoPros!" was my immediate thought. All ready to give GoPro my money.

Oh, but they dropped stereo genlock after the 3+..... wait what?!?! VR filmmaking is one of those things that people are heavily experimenting with. Why would they purposely drop this segment when it's only just starting to pick up? This is a segment not filled by their ultra-expensive 360 rigs.

So off to eBay I go. Hmmmm.... do I need a 3, a 3+, a 3+ Black? A 2? Is there a 2 Pro or something? Do I need the 3D kit or the dual-Hero kit? Does it even still work with the latest firmware?

It's so confusing that even some people on eBay honestly weren't sure what they were selling.

There are a few things that could fill this niche, all right now frustratingly in 'pre-order' or 'might be out the end of this year' state. Yet GoPro had this and they just.... dropped it.

Too many different models in the past, just far too confusing.

For the record, I've gone with used GoPro Hero 2s from eBay. Just waiting on the sync cable now. Will see how that works out :)

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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In what way do you think that strategy is an inescapable consequence of capitalism?

Capitalism isn't a bad idea, it just needs proper regulation. What we have is an unregulated mess which gives both stupid and unscrupulous execs the advantage.

That doesn't answer my question, at all. What is it about capitalism that makes the strategy you describe a) inevitable, and b) worthy of regulation (since you brought that up)?

Also, I disagree that the modern economy is unregulated. Quite the contrary, in fact. And it's regulation, bailouts and crony capitalism that protect companies who make awful products.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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You mean iMovie? How can it get easier than "drag and drop your video, hit share button"

I don't know what you call that, "dropping a steaming binary turd on your friends"? I dunno, but "editing" it is not. I've got literal hours of video of some dirt road in the Alaska tundra. No one wants to watch that, I've got to whittle it down to the highlight and parts that folks might enjoy, like the mountain goats in the middle of a blind corner or the moose running across the road. And that is time-intensive; l…

When you've had to deal with the hours-of-video problem, you learn to be much more selective for when to start recording, and for how long to record. But even with that, and end even when you've learned the tricks of your editing software, and when you have given up the inner perfectionist, in my experience each minute of the final (amateur!) production still takes 10-100x more time to put together.

Automated editing solutions would help, but compared to editing by hand, I'd say they would compare same way as Instagram filters compare to a photographer/retoucher working in Lightroom/Photoshop.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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So, Free market everywhere except our market? Sounds like Wall Street is having trouble living up to its rhetoric.

One aspect of a free market is that its up to you to decide whom to do business with. Free market applies to every market participant equally. Your privilege is the counterparties obligation. Do you believe other market participants should be forced to buy your stock while the stock is obviously crashing just so you can get a favorable outcome? And because you seem to be clouded by little man nerdrage: The stock mark…

"Do you believe other market participants should be forced to buy your stock while the stock is obviously crashing just so you can get a favorable outcome?"

A free market creates all kinds of poor outcomes for example.

Me:Do you think that American consumers should have to buy their lifesaving drugs at a few thousand percent markup from a company that manipulated the FDA in order to obtain a monopoly on a 100 year old drug?

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/10/heres-why-your-a...

Wall Street: Yes, free market.

Later that day...

Me: This stock is falling I want to sell.

Wall Street: Nope. Market protections kicked in you see.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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post #92

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One aspect of a free market is that its up to you to decide whom to do business with. Free market applies to every market participant equally. Your privilege is the counterparties obligation. Do you believe other market participants should be forced to buy your stock while the stock is obviously crashing just so you can get a favorable outcome? And because you seem to be clouded by little man nerdrage: The stock mark…

"Do you believe other market participants should be forced to buy your stock while the stock is obviously crashing just so you can get a favorable outcome?" A free market creates all kinds of poor outcomes for example. Me:Do you think that American consumers should have to buy their lifesaving drugs at a few thousand percent markup from a company that manipulated the FDA in order to obtain a monopoly on a 100 year ol…

Looks like the one-article-evidence is habitual. I'd get that checked. If you can afford the pills.

I'm withdrawing from this conversation.

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