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Web fonts, boy, I don't know

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Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

#61

Are there actually font blockers like ad blockers? That would solve the problem pretty easily for everybody who's annoyed. Although they probably won't be available for mobile browsers, where it's the most painful.

It's an option in uBlock, and it works great:

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Per-site-switches#no-...

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

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post #57

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"Let's click on this link... ah, not that link, let's go back. Yes, this link... NO! STOP MOVING!" This is my #1 complaint about reddit. Not due to fonts; but rather when I load reddit on my phone, a "get the reddit app" banner appears... timed perfectly so that my attempt to view my messages sends me off to the app store.

Heck, this is my #1 complaint of almost anything on a mobile browser. It's easily the worst offender when it comes to mobile in general; I wish browser vendors put a bigger focus on fixing this, somehow.

Browser vendors against adclicks, mice against cheese, bees against honey, what you gonna do now?

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

#63
post #56

Are there actually font blockers like ad blockers? That would solve the problem pretty easily for everybody who's annoyed. Although they probably won't be available for mobile browsers, where it's the most painful.

about:config search for webfonts.enabled. change to false. alternatively, install noscript extension to have a UI with whitelist. if you are not using Firefox, then i have no sympaty. wait until google cares about you.

Also, in preferences, you can uncheck the box that allows sites to choose fonts. After I saw your comment I fired up Chrome to check and was surprised that there seems to be no option for this.

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

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post #10

A 1.2 MB blog post complaining about bloat.

You do realize sometimes it's okay to have a page larger than, say, 50kb. Right? The gifs were a great way to show the exact issues she was discussing and they take up the bulk of that space. So why is that a bad thing in any way? Yes web pages should, ideally , be small but that doesn't mean the media they show to the user has to be small as well.

It's very wasteful. Here's example what you could do with less than 200kb:

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=30244

If you don't want to run it on your computer, you can watch recording from youtube.

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

#66

Are there actually font blockers like ad blockers? That would solve the problem pretty easily for everybody who's annoyed. Although they probably won't be available for mobile browsers, where it's the most painful.

In Firefox, >Options >Content >Fonts >Advanced Unchecking "Allow pages to choose their own fonts..", blocks Webfonts and System fonts which configured User fonts have the necessary characters to render. In about:config gfx.downloadable_fonts.enable > false ,will block all webfonts, but this breaks many sites like imgur & g̶i̶t̶h̶u̶b̶ which use webfonts to display navigation icons.

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

#67

I have had the exact experience in the last month. Being on a slow connection, I've come to loath web fonts. There is nothing wrong with them in general but it's just that they've come to symbolise over-indulgence and a myopia towards the users actual task-focused needs as opposed to aesthetics. Part of the issue is dealing with progressive enhancement as far as slow internet connections go. How do you solve that pro…

> Would love an attribute on script and link tags that could be conditional based on connection speeds.

A fast connection can be faster than the site's capacity to serve resources to you. See also HN hug of death, etc.

I would like to think that the defer attribute is already conditional, since it's almost instant on sufficiently fast connections.

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize sometimes it's okay to have a page larger than, say, 50kb. Right? The gifs were a great way to show the exact issues she was discussing and they take up the bulk of that space. So why is that a bad thing in any way? Yes web pages should, ideally , be small but that doesn't mean the media they show to the user has to be small as well.

>You do realize sometimes it's okay to have a page larger than, say, 50kb. Right? 50KB isn't anywhere near 1.2MB. Did you mean 500KB? The blog post specifically mentioned an experience on a 2g connection, and the bloat associated with webfonts. Webfonts seem to typically be in the 50KB - 150KB range. I just find it ironic to complain about bloat from one type of artifact, in a blog post that uses even larger artifact…

The article's point is that all text not rendering cripples a page. Not seeing a specific image for a while, especially one that's relatively optional, is fine.

Re: Web fonts, boy, I don't know

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As much as I believe font matters, I really think people should just use system fonts in general. No content is definitely more annoying than ugly content, but I have a seething hatred for webpages who jump around as content loads. "Let's click on this link... ah, not that link, let's go back. Yes, this link... NO! STOP MOVING!" Besides, I'm used to my fonts. I know your fonts are a deliberate design choice, but I'm…

"Let's click on this link... ah, not that link, let's go back. Yes, this link... NO! STOP MOVING!" This is my #1 complaint about reddit. Not due to fonts; but rather when I load reddit on my phone, a "get the reddit app" banner appears... timed perfectly so that my attempt to view my messages sends me off to the app store.

I'm convinced this page-jumps-as-you're-about-to-touch is a dark pattern to some clickbait time-waster sites use to get more mobile ad clicks. Just when I'm about to click 'Next' to see the 7th-of-53 stoopid-photos-taken-at-Walmart an ad link jumps to be right under my finger.
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