Creative name for a slack clone...
Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
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Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the broader point is that in any industry that's heavily regulated enough that built-in regulatory compliance is a selling point, is it really worth the hassle of taking on that potential liability yourself when it can be outsourced for <$100/year/user?
I have not read the terms and conditions for Microsoft's Office online services, however, I would not expect that Microsoft explicitly assumes much liability for regulatory compliance on behalf of customers under them. I tend to doubt that Microsoft would be a first choice target for litigation by a reasonably prudent lawyer or regulatory body these days. Anyway, there are organizational cultures where free is almost…
That could depend on the lawyers your organization has. Not to say they do or don't include indemnification, but those providers who are capable will often times offer indemnification terms, when they don't do so out of course, if you have the proper team asking for it.
And usually large orgs with those kinds of liability questions will have the necessary resources to make those requests.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#203This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product. 1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition. 2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies. 3) The IP isn't really all…
> None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. That's not true where I work. Slack's history is full of valuable information that we use all the time.
Honest question, is it possible to export all of the chat history from slack?
One of the (only) things I like about Skype is that message history is held in an sqlite database on the local machine. So I have a record of every single message for the last 5 years.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the broader point is that in any industry that's heavily regulated enough that built-in regulatory compliance is a selling point, is it really worth the hassle of taking on that potential liability yourself when it can be outsourced for <$100/year/user?
I have not read the terms and conditions for Microsoft's Office online services, however, I would not expect that Microsoft explicitly assumes much liability for regulatory compliance on behalf of customers under them. I tend to doubt that Microsoft would be a first choice target for litigation by a reasonably prudent lawyer or regulatory body these days. Anyway, there are organizational cultures where free is almost…
O365 for government can meet far more stringent controls than HIPPA -- which is very easy to target.
I did a very large O365 rollout where Microsoft was willing and able to meet really difficult compliance targets like IRS Pub 1075 and CJIS. They absolutely will meet those and other standards.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "do it with love" part is especially funny as their support doesn't actually give a shit what their customers think or feel. They'll happily give you absolute bottom-of-the-barrel effort canned copy-paste responses to carefully written and considered bug reports, indicating the agent neither actually read nor remotely understood what you were writing about. Slack doesn't have a box to stand on to tell others how…
That part was almost unreadable, it was so cringe worthy. "Made with Love" movement is a meme in itself at this point.
At the risk of sounding like a grump, something about the emojis in software movement really aggravates me. When I see "Made with love" or the hideous heart eye smiley, something makes me just not want to use the software that's showing it.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Buying the cheapest SKU of O365 that has Microsoft Teams is actually cheaper than per-person cost for Slack.
For now it is. If service income is to replace on premise licenses the price will have to go up.
Disagree. People had fairly long upgrade cycles on desktop office before office365. A subscription provides more reliable income.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#207Two really unique things I think this product does 1) The use of GIFs/memes. While this seems silly, it is actually a big deal because it lowers the formalization of communication. Having used this product, you just have much better free flowing conversation and many times these "fun" items help you get the message across significantly better (ex. asking for updates or bumping things can now be done in a funny way).…
FWIW, Slack offers Giphy integration.
I've used the Giphy integration, and unless I was using it wrong it is horrendous. You can just write /giphy and it will pick a random gif for you, and most of the time they are completely irrelevant.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#208Strange choice of hero photo to promote a chat-based virtual workspace: a team of people sitting around a table, thus having no need for the product.
GSuite has a similar image. I think the idea is teams are collaborating over the internet https://gsuite.google.com/
GSuite seems to be suggesting that they're in different cities, due to the different buildings in the background. It's also full of things you'd want even when sitting at a table with people--docs, sheets, etc.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#209When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Even if you choose the plan for installed Office applications on your computer, the price is still much more attractive than having to get a subscription for every one of the c…
The only problem is the products I have tried on mac (OneNote, OneDrive) & Android (OneNote) were very buggy/slow/missing features in other platforms. I wish it was otherwise. As you said, they do have a good suite of apps at a fair price
Every day I use OneNote on windows, Mac, and on my iPhone and iPad. One Note is truly a first class citizen on all of those platforms, and it was on Android, too, last I checked a year ago before I switched to iPhone.
OneNote is great on the Mac! Your experience is so different from mine that I'm guessing you used it long before I did. Try it again because it's beeen great for at least a year.
Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
> None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. That's not true where I work. Slack's history is full of valuable information that we use all the time.
Honest question, is it possible to export all of the chat history from slack? One of the (only) things I like about Skype is that message history is held in an sqlite database on the local machine. So I have a record of every single message for the last 5 years.
Yes.