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>nothing will ever be good enough for them again. Reading this made me so sad. This is exactly how I feel. Nothing will ever be good enough again. :(
I would kill for a Nokia N950. A proper keyboard, and a true Linux operating system with the usual userspace software you would expect.
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Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know this is a completely subjective matter but I'm really surprised you'd use the word flashy and in your face as a description, I really like it, but boring and dull could fit better as a criticism IMO, specially with older versions, I'm really curious about your choice of words, this is what it looks like to me: http://i.imgur.com/J82pZMh.png You'd say that is flashy? Just curious :)
That screenshot is almost entirely text. It doesn't give a sense of the actual KDE ui.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#163i have the nexus 7 original. i've tried running custom roms of the latest android os and it's just too laggy. would love something that is custom.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#164The power of things like this taking off is not what they are now, but what they can be. There are lots of real people with their own good reasons to not be tied to Google/Apple, and whats really impressive here is that unlike firefox OS, they are (in my opinion) doing this in a much better way. As this catches on, it only helps improve linux hardware (ARM) support, telephony applications for linux, and the like. As…
I used to have that. It was my Nokia n900. I was able to pull up live thumbnail previews of all apps running in the background, and this included live simultaneous previews of: youtube videos in a web browser, games, and Debian, without lag. Try doing that on today's technology. It had a wonderfully acurate resistive touch screen that was pressure senstive that was really good for drawing and coloring! The camera wou…
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#165The power of things like this taking off is not what they are now, but what they can be. There are lots of real people with their own good reasons to not be tied to Google/Apple, and whats really impressive here is that unlike firefox OS, they are (in my opinion) doing this in a much better way. As this catches on, it only helps improve linux hardware (ARM) support, telephony applications for linux, and the like. As…
I used to have that. It was my Nokia n900. I was able to pull up live thumbnail previews of all apps running in the background, and this included live simultaneous previews of: youtube videos in a web browser, games, and Debian, without lag. Try doing that on today's technology. It had a wonderfully acurate resistive touch screen that was pressure senstive that was really good for drawing and coloring! The camera wou…
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#166Language abusers.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
I preordered my Neo Freerunner and it was able to make phone calls since day zero. Of course, Neo1973 was a different story, as it pretty much wasn't supposed to be fully working on day zero ;)
I had a friend how got a Freerunner, but he returned it after a few weeks because "no matter how awesome it is, I need something that can actually make phone calls". So it certainly didn't work for him on day zero.
I then flashed a fully featured Debian on it which was able to do everything except making phone calls. I was so excited about that while all my non-techie friends were like "Well, lucky you but now you have a so called Smartphone which isn't even a phone."
Dropped it as a daily driver after two weeks or so to leave it on my desk for a long time until someone on the Freerunner mailing list asked if someone is willing to sell theirs. 20 people offered theirs for free so I couldn't get rid of mine. Gave it to an Open Device Lab then, they still own it but never listed it in their device list.
But somehow I don't regret buying it in the first place.
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#168The power of things like this taking off is not what they are now, but what they can be. There are lots of real people with their own good reasons to not be tied to Google/Apple, and whats really impressive here is that unlike firefox OS, they are (in my opinion) doing this in a much better way. As this catches on, it only helps improve linux hardware (ARM) support, telephony applications for linux, and the like. As…
I used to have that. It was my Nokia n900. I was able to pull up live thumbnail previews of all apps running in the background, and this included live simultaneous previews of: youtube videos in a web browser, games, and Debian, without lag. Try doing that on today's technology. It had a wonderfully acurate resistive touch screen that was pressure senstive that was really good for drawing and coloring! The camera wou…
I'll give you the keyboard though. Nothing beats a full keyboard.
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#169Main plasma mobile developer here, I wanted to reply some questions that surfaced in comments and give a bit of overview on current state and where we need help. We initially based it on Ubuntu Touch, and later on started using our own stack based on Cyanogenmod, more information on it at : http://blog.bshah.in/2016/05/02/plasma-mobile-new-base-syste...
So basically currently Plasma Mobile is made of,
- KDE Frameworks
- kwin_wayland
- Plasma workspace
- Plasma phone shell
- Various Applications
And to run Plasma Mobile stack on mobile devices, we have - Minimal Cyanongenmod base
- LXC userspace tools for android
- Neon rootfs with Plasma Mobile
Q: Why not use Mer and/or Ubuntu Touch
A: This question is mostly answered in the blog post I linked above, Mer is using RPM .spec based packaging and we don't have resources and as well people who have expertise in RPM packaging, about Ubuntu Touch, we initially based our stack on top of Ubuntu Touch, however later we ended up diverging on various levels, for example libhybris, Qt etc. and it was impossible to keep using Ubuntu Touch stackQ: Why we are using libhybris and not freedreno?
A: Short answer: In theory, we can use freedreno.
Long answer: kwin_wayland supports DRM backend, and freedreno provides the DRM on android devices, however we don't have access to device which supports freedreno easily. For instance I attempted to get mainline kernel working on Nexus 5 device and also submitted some device tree source files to Linux kernel tree, and will be available in kernel 4.9 release.. But sadly I was not able to finish this project
Q: Why not other devices?
A: Currently we don't have access to multiple devices, however we will be happy to help the community members to "port" or in other words, make Plasma mobile run on their devices.
Q: Where we need help?
A: You can help on pretty much everything.. Some things that come to mind, are
- Porting to other devices
- Various Plasma on Wayland todo items
- More applications for Plasma mobile
- Work on base system
That said, if you have any questions feel free to reach me at bshah@kde.org, or to Plasma team at plasma-devel@kde.org mailing list.Edit: edited for line breaks
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Have you looked into sailfish? No physical keyboard, AFAICT, but it's based on the successor to Maemo. Also, look into the neo900 project and Pyra. Neo900 is trying to upgrade the n900, and Pyra is the successor to Pandora, which is a pocket computer in a semi-similar vein to the old nokias. Neither is finished, but they're worth a look.
Sailfish is cool, I used to use it on my Nexus 4. Its app support has never been quite as good as Maemo's, IMO. The neo900 makes me sad, because it's basically my ideal phone, but the price is just too much for me. I know it's not their fault, the low production quantities will do that, but still. It's an updated n900, with a fully FOSS stack and an isolated baseband to boot... awesome.