Isn't this the ugliest UI.
Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
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Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#142Okay, let's summarize: There is a need, but this may not be its satisfaction. A pity that it made it to front page entry 1 already before really working on user needs. E.g. if you make a video, don't make it 6 minutes long, don't use such kind of annoying background music, don't advertise that you can call someone. It's like advertising a computer by showing that it can connect with a USB mouse. Show us the dev envir…
> A pity that it made it to front page entry 1 already before really working on user needs.
The old free software dilemma: Do you wait until your product is polished, thus cutting yourself off all possible publicity? Or will you be vocal about your development efforts, and stand the complaints about rough edges, in order to attract helping hands?
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#143I like this announcement and still root for any alternative phone platform. The thing is - which device would I buy? Plasma Mobile supports the Nexus 5 and (maybe) the OnePlus One right now. CopperheadOS doesn't support either of those. I was unable to get a reliable source for supported devices for Ubuntu Phone (best I found was [1], not even sure if that's related) and so far I don't believe that the supported devi…
Plasma Mobile is more meant to be a standardization platform to make phone OSes than the be all end all one in and of itself. Copperhead is just a liberated Android for the most part, it just replaces Replicant. Since Jolla develops sailfishOS, and the OS itself is mostly proprietary, it should be no surprise there isn't a hobbyist community supporting it on Android phones. Plasma Mobile and Firefox OS were both in a…
> Copperhead is just a liberated Android for the most part, it just replaces Replicant.
"Liberated" to the extent that it removes Google stuff such as Play Services, yes. However CopperheadOS is not completely libre. They do include non-free 3D drivers, for instance.
I agree that Copperhead largely appeals to the same group of people, and it's much more actively developed.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It may be underpowered now, but that physical > keyboard still makes my envious: I could almost > maybe write code on something like that. I had one. That's what I thought. I was wrong. It was slower than swype & variants for normal (mail, sms, etc) writing. The physical keyboard had the benefit of providing relatively easy access to 'dev' keys - esc, ctrl, special characters. But it was so teeny that even as a pro…
I don't think I could have used it to write code, though I never tried very hard coz it was so frustrating. Practice would have helped. But I could and did use it to write and edit long-form prose. It's way better than a touch-screen for shelling in and fixing server issues when you're stuck at a party away from keyboard. Actual code writing tends to mean using lots of symbols though, and while the N900 keyboard was…
I continued ranting FWIW:
https://dalliance.net/vPre2/phone-keyboards
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
T-Mobile works nowhere, and is the only carrier which is actively countering net neutrality. Verizon is also required to allow using any compatible LTE handset, and they aren't allowed to care what OS you use on it. The problem is that nobody is developing them.
> T-Mobile works nowhere, and is the only carrier which is actively countering net neutrality. It works way better than a few years ago, and for the reference, almost all mobile providers, including Verizon[1] and AT&T[2] (not sure about Sprint) are violating Net Neutrality by giving preferential treatment to their own services. [1]. https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Begins-Zero-Rati... [2]. https://www.dsl…
Neither of those are pleasant, but neither is as bad as T-Mobile, who's primary marketing campaign is about what apps do and don't count towards data caps.
They've also been promoting sleazy marketing strategies like claiming to have "no contract", while stabbing people by cancelling people's device payment plans if they cancel service. I mean, they have only gotten worse since their primary marketing appeal was an attractive woman in a skin-tight leather suit.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think I could have used it to write code, though I never tried very hard coz it was so frustrating. Practice would have helped. But I could and did use it to write and edit long-form prose. It's way better than a touch-screen for shelling in and fixing server issues when you're stuck at a party away from keyboard. Actual code writing tends to mean using lots of symbols though, and while the N900 keyboard was…
I'm typing this post on an android right now. I can barely go a few words without mistyping something. It's almost enough to make me miss my first phone, which was rubbish as a smartphone, but actually did have a real keyboard.
I am finding Flesky much better than any of the swyping keyboards.
I installed it mostly so I could customize the backdrop, but I stayed because those few added gestures make prose input so much more efficient.
Still entirely awful and terrible for writing code though.
Delete the stupid Gif-Keyboard plugin, add in the "OMW" one for common-phrases-shortcuts (then build lots of templates), add the copy/paste bar, and the numbers row.
I like the fireworks-noises plugin too, audible feedback is helpful[1], but wish it sounded more like Ziggy off of Quantum Leap.
They appear to have ignored my suggestions on their forums to make it sound that way, and can't see a way to make my own plugin.
[1] - A feature of my S7 that nobody I've ever noticed talk about online is the ability to control the volume so easily just by putting your thumb over the speaker as you hold the phone. The fireworks noises are basically muted that way if you're trying to type in public ;)
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#147I've been using Linux on desktop for years and love how flexible and open it is. I use maybe 1% of its capabilities and it's amazing. I'd love to be able to have a working, stable and open mobile system. I don't want to be locked in into Google because i don't trust them (or anybody else) enough. Android is great but i miss linux-like feeling of possibilities. But it can be due to my lack of technical skills. Maybe i…
> Android is great but i miss linux-like feeling of possibilities.
One way to take a step in this direction without root is with Termux and its addons (android 5+ only). It's made me much more content on android, although it'll only be truly comfortable if you plug in a keyboard or your phone has a physical keyboard.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you looked into sailfish? No physical keyboard, AFAICT, but it's based on the successor to Maemo. Also, look into the neo900 project and Pyra. Neo900 is trying to upgrade the n900, and Pyra is the successor to Pandora, which is a pocket computer in a semi-similar vein to the old nokias. Neither is finished, but they're worth a look.
I've heard of sailfish before, but I had NO idea sailfish is somewhat maemo based. This really makes me want to reconsider the Jolla phone.
Jolla was formed by devs that left Nokia after they abandoned Meego. I had an N9 and currently have the Jolla phone with Sailfish. They're very similar.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not alone, I have two good friends that still have theirs too, and nothing will ever be good enough for them again. That phone spoiled them, and is the direction they wish phones went. Alas, they have gone the way of the masses instead, but you know if someone like a OnePlus came out with a modern powered phone, with a big battery (phone size doesn't matter to us), a physical keyboard, dual sim, expandable me…
>nothing will ever be good enough for them again. Reading this made me so sad. This is exactly how I feel. Nothing will ever be good enough again. :(
There are certain devices like this, right? A similar thing happens with the HP-15C calculator, it was so sought after in eBay, etc., that HP even made a special edition a few years ago.
Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device
#150Just like desktop KDE, the UI doesn't appeal to me. I find it too flashy and kind of "in your face". My favorite mobile OS so far has been Meego that ran on N9. That device was mind blowing and that OS. Amazing. It had such a simple, yet useful UI. Multi-tasking was better than what even Android has now. I hope Jolla doesn't die like that and we see a lot more devices come out running Sailfish.
I know this is a completely subjective matter but I'm really surprised you'd use the word flashy and in your face as a description, I really like it, but boring and dull could fit better as a criticism IMO, specially with older versions, I'm really curious about your choice of words, this is what it looks like to me: http://i.imgur.com/J82pZMh.png You'd say that is flashy? Just curious :)
That screenshot is almost entirely text. It doesn't give a sense of the actual KDE ui.