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Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by shmerl »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #106
shmerl wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

T-Mobile is flexible and allows using any compatible LTE handset. They don't care what OS you use on it.

T-Mobile works nowhere, and is the only carrier which is actively countering net neutrality. Verizon is also required to allow using any compatible LTE handset, and they aren't allowed to care what OS you use on it. The problem is that nobody is developing them.

> T-Mobile works nowhere, and is the only carrier which is actively countering net neutrality.

It works way better than a few years ago, and for the reference, almost all mobile providers, including Verizon[1] and AT&T[2] (not sure about Sprint) are violating Net Neutrality by giving preferential treatment to their own services.

[1]. https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Begins-Zero-Rati...

[2]. https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Not-Worried-About-Re...

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by pzone »

jbob2000 wrote: post #56
hackuser wrote: post #55

If I understand correctly, this is a user environment. What OS does it run on? A Linux distro? Android? I don't see that detail mentioned on the site. Perhaps people familiar with KDE and Plasma know, but I don't. Or perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious ... EDIT: Wikipedia says that Plasma is a desktop environment, not an OS, and that "Plasma Mobile is a Plasma variant for smartphones". https://en.wikipedia.org/…

No, I'm lost as well. What the hell is this thing? What the hell is a hacking device?

Basically, Ubuntu Touch with Plasma instead of Unity.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by shmerl »

daveloyall wrote: post #128
shmerl wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's based off Kubuntu. It does use Android drivers and libhybris when it has no access to native drivers.

*> it does use android drivers* ...Wait a minute, that sounds like something I can do, too! I'm a LFS[0] kind of guy. I'm also just as opposed to proprietary driver blobs as the next guy... But, for the purpose of getting more use out of my existing phone... I guess I can just root the thing and copy some kernel modules off, eh? Nice. 0: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

See

* https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

* https://sailfishos.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/SailfishOS...

Lot's of that is rather generic. Plasma Mobile is using the same libhybris to interface glibc system with blobs built for bionic (Android) libc.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

pre wrote: post #124
Jedd wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It may be underpowered now, but that physical > keyboard still makes my envious: I could almost > maybe write code on something like that. I had one. That's what I thought. I was wrong. It was slower than swype & variants for normal (mail, sms, etc) writing. The physical keyboard had the benefit of providing relatively easy access to 'dev' keys - esc, ctrl, special characters. But it was so teeny that even as a pro…

I don't think I could have used it to write code, though I never tried very hard coz it was so frustrating. Practice would have helped. But I could and did use it to write and edit long-form prose. It's way better than a touch-screen for shelling in and fixing server issues when you're stuck at a party away from keyboard. Actual code writing tends to mean using lots of symbols though, and while the N900 keyboard was…

I'm typing this post on an android right now. I can barely go a few words without mistyping something.

It's almost enough to make me miss my first phone, which was rubbish as a smartphone, but actually did have a real keyboard.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by shmerl »

hackuser wrote: post #108
shmerl wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's based off Kubuntu. It does use Android drivers and libhybris when it has no access to native drivers.

Thanks! Is it documented somewhere?

* https://plasma-mobile.org/technology/

* https://plasma-mobile.org/nexus-5/

In the second link you can see a reference to KDE Neon, which is development distro based on Kubuntu.

See also: https://neon.kde.org

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by majewsky »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #116
anoother wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they thought we should be impressed it can make phone calls. Oh, but you should be impressed. For how long could OpenMoko not make phone calls? Open-source phone OSs have a habit of neglecting actual phone functionality. So I think it's great that they highlight it.

I preordered my Neo Freerunner and it was able to make phone calls since day zero. Of course, Neo1973 was a different story, as it pretty much wasn't supposed to be fully working on day zero ;)

I had a friend how got a Freerunner, but he returned it after a few weeks because "no matter how awesome it is, I need something that can actually make phone calls". So it certainly didn't work for him on day zero.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by majewsky »

ricogallo wrote: post #103
Etheryte wrote: post #41

What is it with using scroll hijacking on flashy product pages? If I can't use the page normally, I won't use it.

This. I hate to readjust my usual scrolling habit just because they think their unique scrolling friction is better.

FF 49 on Linux here - and everything scrolls as expected. No hijacking.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by [deleted] »

jbob2000 wrote: post #56
hackuser wrote: post #55

If I understand correctly, this is a user environment. What OS does it run on? A Linux distro? Android? I don't see that detail mentioned on the site. Perhaps people familiar with KDE and Plasma know, but I don't. Or perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious ... EDIT: Wikipedia says that Plasma is a desktop environment, not an OS, and that "Plasma Mobile is a Plasma variant for smartphones". https://en.wikipedia.org/…

No, I'm lost as well. What the hell is this thing? What the hell is a hacking device?

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Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by auganov »

jbob2000 wrote: post #56
hackuser wrote: post #55

If I understand correctly, this is a user environment. What OS does it run on? A Linux distro? Android? I don't see that detail mentioned on the site. Perhaps people familiar with KDE and Plasma know, but I don't. Or perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious ... EDIT: Wikipedia says that Plasma is a desktop environment, not an OS, and that "Plasma Mobile is a Plasma variant for smartphones". https://en.wikipedia.org/…

No, I'm lost as well. What the hell is this thing? What the hell is a hacking device?

Totally need to change that phrasing. I swear I thought it's a Kali Linux on Android sort of thing!
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