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Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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Quick googling "material theme gtk" returns this which looks very nice actually https://github.com/nana-4/Flat-Plat

oh no. Another "flat design" theme. A button must be distinguishable from other design elements in my opinion. I hope this fad goes away soon, it's even more annoying than the glossy look or skeuomorphs.

It should be distinguishable, not just from the theme. A good UX/UI design will make that clear regardless.

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If you theme them, then they look quite a bit less terrible. There is a clearlooks theme that makes things quite a bit more bareable.

Paper ( https://snwh.org/paper/theme ) is a particularly great theme for the Gnome desktop (it also works with Budgie, Pantheon, and Unity, but I haven't tried it on any of those). The author's icon set is also pretty nice.

Wow! Definitely one of the best designs I've seen in the OSS world. Finally someone with actual design chops has risen the bar!

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> "At this point, does not yet run macOS application with a GUI" Great, so I can run OS X's shitty versions of Linux utilities... on Linux.

Technically, they are't really OS X's shitty versions of Linux utilities but rather the BSD versions of GNU utilities.

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> it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier that could change. Fundamental to most peoples complaints about desktop Linux applications is the lack of look and feel cohesion across all permutations of distro, desktop, and toolkit. Wine applications using the Windows APIs look like complete garbage and fit in nowhere. The same would be true of OSX Cocoa apps - they wouldn…

The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. They either use just one app anyway or have them custom written to use their nvidia quadros with whatever UI they like, But the senior execs that need the absolute monster for outlook and facebook will always be well served by the top end macs.

    The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion.
[citation needed]

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The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. They either use just one app anyway or have them custom written to use their nvidia quadros with whatever UI they like, But the senior execs that need the absolute monster for outlook and facebook will always be well served by the top end macs.

The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. [citation needed]

I think the "visual cohesion" of Sketch[1] is a big factor in the success it is seeing. The tagline is "Professional digital design for Mac" (emphasis mine).

[1] https://www.sketchapp.com

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I go back and forth on whether this would truly be useful. 10-15 years ago, having a fully baked, first class, slavishly source compatible implementation of GNUstep with broad adoption throughout Linux land would have likely been a game changer. But now, it seems webified apps are king. The handful of native apps that people use are already satisfactorily implementable on Linux. In fact, a great number of native apps…

I wrote a blog post once about how the web is the new presentation layer for the desktop, that this is not necessarily a bad thing, and that a desktop OS (e.g. a Linux distro) should just fully embrace it by implementing a desktop that runs 100% via web technologies. Local and remote web apps could coexist as first class citizens, etc. I basically argued that HTML+JS+CSS renderers are the new X and that HTTP(S) is th…

I think this is what Google is trying to achieve with Fuchsia, their new OS.

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Have fun editing HDR footage or cutting samples on the command line. Don't get me wrong, but MacOS is exactly my platform of choice because I can have a sane POSIX command line as well as a color managed display and high resolution, low latency multichannel audio on the very same computer and can switch effortlessly.

You're actually manipulating graphical data though, in that situation a GUI makes a lot of sense. Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers.

>Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers.

Englebart? Sutherland? Kay? Idiots! Fifty years of academic and industrial research into Human Computer Interaction? Arrant nonsense. Let's blow it all off and do your thing. What could possibly go wrong? [0]

[0] http://gandre.ws/blog/blog/2015/04/07/why-the-command-line-i...

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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> The "professional" market doesn't care about visual cohesion. That isn't true at all. I spend all day in a handful of applications and good aesthetics make my day much more enjoyable.

I think the point is that many "professional" tools have their own aesthetics independent of the rest of the OS. Things like lightroom or movie editing software. For these programs OS skins are not needed.

That's a very good point. That tool, however, should at the very least be internally consistent and pleasant to use.

I don't think that's what the person was saying that I responded to or he wouldn't have made the condescending remark about people using a pro machine to use Outlook and Facebook.

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> Why “Darling”? >The name Darling is a combination of “Darwin” and “Linux”. >Darwin is the core operating system OS X and iOS build on. If that's the case, why not Darlin? But then, I'm southern so that's why it makes more sense to me.

I feel like "Darlin" only sounds "cute" when said with a southern accent.

I think it sounds like something a "Cockney" market trader (played by someone who's not actually from London) would say in a 1970s Carry On film.

"Orl right darlin' how's about some of these luverly toms? Luverly bag of toms for one pan ten"

Re: Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

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80% of my apps i use run on electron :D

So thats why people need more than 16GB of memory on their MacBook Pro.

A general rule I follow on my Mac to minimize memory and power consumption:

- Use Safari

- Avoid web based desktop app like Atom, Slack, etc.

- Limit maximum of 3 app open, e.g. Xcode + iTerm + Safari. Bonus: I can focus my mind on the things that I need to do.

- Limit maximum of 3 open tabs on my Safari.

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