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Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

lphnull wrote: post #73
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #51

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Have you looked into sailfish? No physical keyboard, AFAICT, but it's based on the successor to Maemo. Also, look into the neo900 project and Pyra. Neo900 is trying to upgrade the n900, and Pyra is the successor to Pandora, which is a pocket computer in a semi-similar vein to the old nokias. Neither is finished, but they're worth a look.

I've heard of sailfish before, but I had NO idea sailfish is somewhat maemo based. This really makes me want to reconsider the Jolla phone.

Sailfish is based on Meego, which was a merge of Maemo and another project. It was the OS that backed the N9, the last phone Nokia made before they went to MS.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by photonwins »

lphnull wrote: post #37
benmcnelly wrote: post #30

The power of things like this taking off is not what they are now, but what they can be. There are lots of real people with their own good reasons to not be tied to Google/Apple, and whats really impressive here is that unlike firefox OS, they are (in my opinion) doing this in a much better way. As this catches on, it only helps improve linux hardware (ARM) support, telephony applications for linux, and the like. As…

I used to have that. It was my Nokia n900. I was able to pull up live thumbnail previews of all apps running in the background, and this included live simultaneous previews of: youtube videos in a web browser, games, and Debian, without lag. Try doing that on today's technology. It had a wonderfully acurate resistive touch screen that was pressure senstive that was really good for drawing and coloring! The camera wou…

The best mobile computer I have ever used, I kicked myself when I dropped it on the floor and the screen broke. I ordered a compatible screen from ebay and changed it myself. It was so much fun opening up a terminal and ssh'ing into my workstation. Then Nokia had to go out of the way to ruin it for me.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

digi_owl wrote: post #79
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #48

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Meego was a merger of Intel's Moblin and Nokia's Maemo, so yes. Sailfish is the modern descendant.

Best i can tell it is complicated. Sailfish is based of Mer, A community reimplementation of Maemo without the proprietary Nokia bits (power management being a key part), that was started before the merger. But adopted various Meego elements afterwards. BTW, it was the Sailfish IRC channel that spawn the supposed Poettering death threat. It was actually a bad joke about using kickstarter to fund an assassin after the…

God, what were they thinking?

The one and only feature I want integrated into systemd is the ability to execute a command to punch Lennart in the face. If they did that, I might use it for a week.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

lphnull wrote: post #66
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #45

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I still want an N900 now. The web be damned: it could still browse HN. Nowadays, the next best thing is the Pyra, but that still has't been released. By the way, have you seen the neo900 project? It sounds like you would be interested, although it is also incomplete.

I spent $300+ (way too much!) for my n900 and I still think it was worth it. It was my replacement for my tmobile g1 phone. The n900 is everything that I thought the g1 was going to be, but wasn't. In a way, it was my fault for blindly creating my own hype over a first generation product I knew nothing about. The g1 turned out to be my bad and disappointing foray into smart phones. Also, yes I have heard of the neo90…

I wouldn't be so sure. There are a lot of N900 users and fans.

Another interesting project which might fill my desire for a true mobile computer (if only I could afford it) is the Pyra, the more powerful successor to the Pandora. But at $~500-$~600, it may not be worth it, and it still hasn't actually released yet (although the company did make the Pandora, so they have a history of Getting Stuff Done).

If you're going on the cheap, you can always hack together a Raspberry Pi and a tiny screen, keyboard, and battery into something semi-workable, and use a phone for the rest.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

Jedd wrote: post #87
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #40

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I never had a Meego phone, or a Nokia at all. But I still want an N900: Physical keyboard, a hackable Linux base, and a system that's not very powerful, but usually powerful enough. And that was in '09. It may be underpowered now, but that physical keyboard still makes my envious: I could almost maybe write code on something like that.

> It may be underpowered now, but that physical > keyboard still makes my envious: I could almost > maybe write code on something like that. I had one. That's what I thought. I was wrong. It was slower than swype & variants for normal (mail, sms, etc) writing. The physical keyboard had the benefit of providing relatively easy access to 'dev' keys - esc, ctrl, special characters. But it was so teeny that even as a pro…

I've actually had a phone with a physical keyboard. And IMHO, it's way better than any digital keyboard I've ever used: I could consistantly type exactly the characters I wanted. And fast, too.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by digi_owl »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #88
digi_owl wrote: post #72

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It seems that very few people these days knows that all the big name European mobile brands (Ericsson, Nokia, Siemens) were also big name infrastructure brands. And that two of them still operate (Ericsson and Nokia, the latter having bought Siemens infrastructure division).

As was Motorola in the USA

Touche.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by nextos »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #45
lphnull wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to have that. It was my Nokia n900. I was able to pull up live thumbnail previews of all apps running in the background, and this included live simultaneous previews of: youtube videos in a web browser, games, and Debian, without lag. Try doing that on today's technology. It had a wonderfully acurate resistive touch screen that was pressure senstive that was really good for drawing and coloring! The camera wou…

I still want an N900 now. The web be damned: it could still browse HN. Nowadays, the next best thing is the Pyra, but that still has't been released. By the way, have you seen the neo900 project? It sounds like you would be interested, although it is also incomplete.

Pyras are really really close to being released. I think max 10-12 weeks.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by bitJericho »

imjustsaying wrote: post #84
benmcnelly wrote: post #47

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You are not alone, I have two good friends that still have theirs too, and nothing will ever be good enough for them again. That phone spoiled them, and is the direction they wish phones went. Alas, they have gone the way of the masses instead, but you know if someone like a OnePlus came out with a modern powered phone, with a big battery (phone size doesn't matter to us), a physical keyboard, dual sim, expandable me…

Maddox would enjoy a reboot, too. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

The most objective comparison of two cellphones ever made.

Re: Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hacking device

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Post by digi_owl »

imjustsaying wrote: post #84
benmcnelly wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not alone, I have two good friends that still have theirs too, and nothing will ever be good enough for them again. That phone spoiled them, and is the direction they wish phones went. Alas, they have gone the way of the masses instead, but you know if someone like a OnePlus came out with a modern powered phone, with a big battery (phone size doesn't matter to us), a physical keyboard, dual sim, expandable me…

Maddox would enjoy a reboot, too. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

Huh, i completely missed that Nokia made a Symbian variant of their split keyboard design. I recall a relative of mine owned one of the featurephone models.

Things like this is what makes me feel that the mobile market came to a screeching halt somewhere around 2007, and has barely been picking up speed since.

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