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Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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If I'm understanding your question correctly, the single biggest obstacle in healthcare informatics today is interoperability. The industry grew up in a pretty ad hoc way and the result is that closed-off silos of data are pretty much the norm; every vendor has their own ideas about how data should be handled, and getting different systems talking to each other is a full-time job (my job, coincidentally). HITECH and…

I agree. Integration is exceedingly complex. Data is stored and interpreted differently in every system, even if they share the same EMR, due to configuration differences in workflow, data setup, software versions, etc. You can't exchange data without thoroughly understanding the clinic workflows that generated it or will be using it. It's all time-consuming and hard. I work on a patient portal consuming data from th…

> "Are you integrated with Epic/Cerner/whatever?"

The irony being that those tightly inegrated solutions tend to be some of the worst offenders in terms of being a nightmare for interop and walled-off silos. But they're popular because the pieces they do offer generally work.

And totally agree that the opportunity is there for highly targeted applications that cater to specific healthcare niches because the downside of the huge top-down systems is the fact that they're more generalized. But you have to be able to integrate them into that larger EMR environment for them to be realistically useful.

That said, the facility I'm at now (midsize, ~400 beds) took a best-of-breed approach and... well, there's a reason I say current interop is bad. It's appealing on the clinical side because groups like surgery or the ED or even endo get to run software designed to cater specifically to their needs, but the backend integration ends up being a huge exercise every time anything changes.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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post #32

I really like the fact that Microsoft stresses the security of this product: Broad compliance standards support Data encryption at all times, at-rest and in-transit Multi-factor authentication for enhanced identity protection The only other thing I think they didn't mention in the feature set that Slack is much better is 3rd party API integrations.

I am guessing here, but outside of "developer teams" how many businesses and people give a crap about 3rd party API integrations? They wouldn't really have a use for them unless someone happened to be a hobby programmer on the side or something. I guess MSFT could create a marketplace for said bots/integrations....

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Could you tell us what desires you have and what issues the healthcare industry is hitting with computer based tech ? As an ex computer fanatics I wanted to make medicine all digital and smooth (naive), I see it's not there, yet I'm not in Health so I have no idea what are the reasons. I expect "world chaos" to be part of them.

I work in health care and to me the worst thing is that there are a lot of disjointed systems you need to bring together. As a lowly developer I don't feel I am qualified to make a judgment about the security aspects but the price the company has to pay for a breach is huge. So it's the uncertainty knowing whether what you are doing is right or not.

Personally, I tend to have more anxiety over making changes that could potentially kill someone than about data security. :)

That said, that's another area where the industry is in pretty bad shape, but that's a far longer rant.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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post #46

Microsoft is charging $6/month/user for online office/teams/1tb storage/50gb email storage/skypebiz/conference calling Slack $7/month/user just for teams :/// anyhow i hate office so i am gonna stick to gsuite..

not trying to insult you or anything but microsoft probably doesn't really care. make most of their money from contracts with companies with thousands of people.

Yep, not to mention entire cities and state governments. Also, the entire Military and Military Industrial Complex...

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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post #118

This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product. 1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition. 2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies. 3) The IP isn't really all…

What do you mean, not defensible? As in, it shouldn't exist, or there's no way it can be profitable long-term?

I think it's a great product experience, but as you say, without adding more value, it can be replicated by Zulip/Rocket.Chat/Mattermost/Cisco Spark/Microsoft Team/ you name it.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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WHAT was Slack thinking writing this?! http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-t... Is this the worst ad in the history of advertising? HUGE publicity for Microsoft, with a schoolboy level of condescending, passive aggressive nonsense. Not sure what they were thinking with this one, especially with an opening line doing nothing but praising their competitor. The confidence(arrogance) is astounding.

I've got an evil grin on my face just thinking about Microsoft's response to Slack. I hope they respond and I hope they don't let me down -- there's a prime opportunity here.

I want "Dear Slack, lol."

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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post #62

When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Even if you choose the plan for installed Office applications on your computer, the price is still much more attractive than having to get a subscription for every one of the c…

Whats funny is that Google Wave was basically a direct predecessor to these types of apps and they killed it before the technology really had a chance to catch up to the vision.

If I remember correctly they never actually had a long term plan to keep it alive.
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