Darling – MacOS translation layer for Linux

Post by ggoss » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 5:59 PM UTC

stuaxo wrote: post #81

zanny wrote: post #49

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> it lacks well designed high quality GUI applications. If porting to Linux was done easier that could change. Fundamental to most peoples complaints about desktop Linux applications is the lack of look and feel cohesion across all permutations of distro, desktop, and toolkit. Wine applications using the Windows APIs look like complete garbage and fit in nowhere. The same would be true of OSX Cocoa apps - they wouldn…

If you theme them, then they look quite a bit less terrible. There is a clearlooks theme that makes things quite a bit more bareable.

Post by pcwalton » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 6:00 PM UTC

Sanddancer wrote: post #91

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> Anyone that likes commodities of UNIX... This is an untrue generalization. I know people who have a Mac, yet do all of their actual coding within containers set up to use some flavor of Linux and never really touch the underlying OS. Macs DO have solid, reliable hardware underneath, but the insinuation that there is no reason you need to run a true POSIX compliant OS vs MacOS is definitely not a hard and fast truth…

OS X is posix-compliant. It doesn't implement certain GNUisms but depending on any vendor-specific problems is going to be a pain point.

Post by eosrei » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 6:01 PM UTC

api wrote: post #77

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I go back and forth on whether this would truly be useful. 10-15 years ago, having a fully baked, first class, slavishly source compatible implementation of GNUstep with broad adoption throughout Linux land would have likely been a game changer. But now, it seems webified apps are king. The handful of native apps that people use are already satisfactorily implementable on Linux. In fact, a great number of native apps…

I wrote a blog post once about how the web is the new presentation layer for the desktop, that this is not necessarily a bad thing, and that a desktop OS (e.g. a Linux distro) should just fully embrace it by implementing a desktop that runs 100% via web technologies. Local and remote web apps could coexist as first class citizens, etc. I basically argued that HTML+JS+CSS renderers are the new X and that HTTP(S) is th…

Post by mrpippy » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 6:07 PM UTC

dreamcompiler wrote: post #97

Back in the PowerPC days, there was a thing called Mac-on-Linux [0] that allowed GUI Mac apps to run in Linux. It worked pretty well. I wonder if that code base would be helpful. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac-on-Linux

Post by api » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 6:09 PM UTC

witty_username wrote: post #87

api wrote: post #77

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I wrote a blog post once about how the web is the new presentation layer for the desktop, that this is not necessarily a bad thing, and that a desktop OS (e.g. a Linux distro) should just fully embrace it by implementing a desktop that runs 100% via web technologies. Local and remote web apps could coexist as first class citizens, etc. I basically argued that HTML+JS+CSS renderers are the new X and that HTTP(S) is th…

Why do you need a desktop running 100% via web technologies? What's the advantage of that? BTW, IIRC KDE uses JS for some Qt stuff and GTK uses CSS for themes. How is HTTPS even close to X11 protocol? That's like saying a car engine can function as a steering wheel. BTW /r/linux is not all Linux users.