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Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by agumonkey »

commandar wrote: post #93
agumonkey wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you tell us what desires you have and what issues the healthcare industry is hitting with computer based tech ? As an ex computer fanatics I wanted to make medicine all digital and smooth (naive), I see it's not there, yet I'm not in Health so I have no idea what are the reasons. I expect "world chaos" to be part of them.

If I'm understanding your question correctly, the single biggest obstacle in healthcare informatics today is interoperability. The industry grew up in a pretty ad hoc way and the result is that closed-off silos of data are pretty much the norm; every vendor has their own ideas about how data should be handled, and getting different systems talking to each other is a full-time job (my job, coincidentally). HITECH and…

I thought it was more than data interchange. Like more than inefficient commputer programs/interfaces, costs, lack of competition from entry barrier due to high amount of legislation/regulation.

I'd love to work in Health IT, what's your company's name ?

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by artursapek »

devy wrote: post #32

I really like the fact that Microsoft stresses the security of this product: Broad compliance standards support Data encryption at all times, at-rest and in-transit Multi-factor authentication for enhanced identity protection The only other thing I think they didn't mention in the feature set that Slack is much better is 3rd party API integrations.

I've found Slack's API integrations to be mostly used as distractions from work, but that may just speak to the team more so than Slack

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by sickbeard »

andrewla wrote: post #8

The cheapest plan for Office 365 that includes this is the $5/user/month, which undercuts Slack's pricing. It also includes a bunch of other stuff that I'm far less excited about; I wish they had gone with a more a la carte approach. I'm not confident that I'll be able to easily integrate this with the identities that I routinely use. Also, it seems like an unwieldy name -- "I'll 'team' that to you", or "let's discus…

They are really stuck on this "team" term it seems. Probably something they plan on bundling with team foundation server/services

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by traskjd »

pwthornton wrote: post #50
3pt14159 wrote: post #31

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They are copying Apple [1]. It's supposed to demonstrate strength, since most competitors try to pretend that the competition doesn't exist. To me it always came off as really dumb and self-important in the most cringing of ways. [1] http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/jobs-apple-welco...

That was a much older, dumber Apple. They would never do that now.

They wouldn't do it now because they're not the underdog. When you're big, you try to look small. When you're small, you try to look big.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by thr0waway1239 »

jitl wrote: post #103
Mithaldu wrote: post #35

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The "do it with love" part is especially funny as their support doesn't actually give a shit what their customers think or feel. They'll happily give you absolute bottom-of-the-barrel effort canned copy-paste responses to carefully written and considered bug reports, indicating the agent neither actually read nor remotely understood what you were writing about. Slack doesn't have a box to stand on to tell others how…

This is the opposite of my experience

Microsoft's support, in contrast, is outstanding you see. As a bonus for sticking with them, you will even get an upgrade of your perfectly functional Windows 7 computer at some unspecified point in time based on checking a box with manipulative exploding offers, and be left with a large brick (voila! magic!).

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mynameisvlad »

thr0waway1239 wrote: post #115
jitl wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the opposite of my experience

Microsoft's support, in contrast, is outstanding you see. As a bonus for sticking with them, you will even get an upgrade of your perfectly functional Windows 7 computer at some unspecified point in time based on checking a box with manipulative exploding offers, and be left with a large brick (voila! magic!).

You're about 4 months late on that, since the Windows 10 upgrade offer expired in July.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by jlgaddis »

overcast wrote: post #24

WHAT was Slack thinking writing this?! http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-t... Is this the worst ad in the history of advertising? HUGE publicity for Microsoft, with a schoolboy level of condescending, passive aggressive nonsense. Not sure what they were thinking with this one, especially with an opening line doing nothing but praising their competitor. The confidence(arrogance) is astounding.

I've got an evil grin on my face just thinking about Microsoft's response to Slack. I hope they respond and I hope they don't let me down -- there's a prime opportunity here.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by mbesto »

This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product.

1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition.

2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies.

3) The IP isn't really all that interesting. Chat based systems have been around since day 1 of the TCP/IP protocol and it's design patterns are pretty well known. In other words, the tech can be replicated.

4) It's not solving a core technology problem for most business without introducing additional problematic externalities. http://www.businessinsider.com/i-used-to-be-obsessed-with-sl...

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by garysieling »

ungzd wrote: post #34
garysieling wrote: post #25

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A lot of large documents are team efforts, and you'd start with a discussion outside the document before it moves into comments inside.

So if company prefers printed documents and bureacracy, why not just talk by telephone or use Microsoft Lync? Why they're trying to combine these dusty office things with hipster web interface?

It's not necessarily a question of preference; sometimes your employer may be contractually required to write specific forms of documentation.

Excel can also be very effective as a small database - I did some volunteer IT work for a co-op grocery store that runs their entire business operation off spreadsheets.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by krisdol »

artursapek wrote: post #112
devy wrote: post #32

I really like the fact that Microsoft stresses the security of this product: Broad compliance standards support Data encryption at all times, at-rest and in-transit Multi-factor authentication for enhanced identity protection The only other thing I think they didn't mention in the feature set that Slack is much better is 3rd party API integrations.

I've found Slack's API integrations to be mostly used as distractions from work, but that may just speak to the team more so than Slack

If you don't find its API integrations useful, then why use slack over just about any other communication software?

For us, the API integrations are huge. Slack is our one-stop hub for finding out what's happening throughout the company with integrations for PM tools, Monitoring, Alerting, Deployments, Build Systems, Support Emails, AnswerHub, GitHub, etc.

And of course, giphys.

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