This is less useful than the hiring one but more entertaining and gives us a chance to boost morale of the people actually hurt. Good thread imho.
Ask HN: Who is firing?
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#132VisualMeta GmbH in Berlin. They're a 'start-up' backed by Axel Springer, Berlin. They fired about 60-70 people recently, some of them on their first day of work. Most of their devs come from non-existent countries (China/Eritrea/Pakistan etc) and they're paid abysmally (€32-34k). It's a surprise that this news wasn't covered at all in Berlin start-up press.
34k € is a bad salary in Germany? Because I think it is an average 1st salary in France (or the companies I've been talking to are also planning to get me paid abysmally )
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#133Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?
#134my ex employer got rid of me in order to spend more $ on aws burning cpu cycles instead. Would like to hire juniors in spades though mind you.
in order to spend more $ on aws burning cpu cycles instead
Maybe he was long on AMZN and desperately wanted the stock to move up.Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?
#135VisualMeta GmbH in Berlin. They're a 'start-up' backed by Axel Springer, Berlin. They fired about 60-70 people recently, some of them on their first day of work. Most of their devs come from non-existent countries (China/Eritrea/Pakistan etc) and they're paid abysmally (€32-34k). It's a surprise that this news wasn't covered at all in Berlin start-up press.
> backed by Axel Springer
These are already two red flags, enough for a person familiar with the Germany's job and tech markets to stay away.
Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?
#136From the sounds of it Kisura GmbH in Berlin is currently tanking. They're making payroll late, not paying suppliers, etc. They don't need to fire anyone because everyone is quitting.
Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?
#137VisualMeta GmbH in Berlin. They're a 'start-up' backed by Axel Springer, Berlin. They fired about 60-70 people recently, some of them on their first day of work. Most of their devs come from non-existent countries (China/Eritrea/Pakistan etc) and they're paid abysmally (€32-34k). It's a surprise that this news wasn't covered at all in Berlin start-up press.
> Berlin... 'start-up' > backed by Axel Springer These are already two red flags, enough for a person familiar with the Germany's job and tech markets to stay away.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did a double-take when I saw Twitter posting[0] in the Who's Hiring thread. What's the rationale here? Why are they firing and hiring at the same time? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12851502
Firing gets rid of the worst. Hiring, at least in theory, pulls in the best. Healthy companies at scale and size equilibrium should be doing both at roughly the same rate, averaged over time.
> Hiring, at least in theory, pulls in the best.
If you're firing "the worst", that means at some point, you hired them. Not to mention "the best" is a very vague term. How do you quantify quality? What pool of people are you selecting "the best" from? How many of them are "the best"? The first two? The first ten?Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks! I'm really tempted to post about the suffering, near-fraud and deceit in my company, but I figure it'll be all over the news soon.
Careful. It doesn't matter enough to risk your wellbeing.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the difference between being fired and laid off?
In the UK, "getting fired" or "getting the sack" means you were incompetent (or commited misconduct) and are sent home. For incompentance, they can only do this after a "performance review" (they have to give you 3 months to improve, I think). "Laid off" is called being "made redundant". The company can do this much more easily to a bunch of people, but it generally has to pay them ~6 months salary and can't hire new…
You might be thinking of the phrase "was let go", which is just a nicer way of saying "got fired".
"Laid off" here means the same as in the UK: you were sent home because your job function isn't needed anymore, or because the company is downsizing.