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Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#71
post #11

This should be a monthly thread.

Yeah seems like something we should track along with hiring. Great thing to know about if you're on the market.

What about the number of throwaway accounts that might necessitate? It would be better to have a more anonymous means to announce that your employer is firing.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#72
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why are they firing and hiring at the same time? Because downsizing via attrition is a death sentence. The worst people are the most likely to stay and then new hires will be unlikely to stick around and deal with the code from the worst people. Once the spiral starts it's hard to get out of.

I always found if funny companies touting "We're hiring only the best" and then "We firing the worst".

'Best' here refers to the population of job seekers, 'worst' refers to the population of the employees.

There are still some elements in the 'best of all job seekers' (= employees) who qualify as worse than the rest. You don't even need to change the trait(s) 'best' and 'worst' refer to.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#73
post #68

Not technically "firing" I suppose but all of the dev org in Atlanta and SF, including myself, were laid off at athenahealth last week. Something like 120 people. Sucks.

What about the Austin office?

I've been seeing job listings for the Austin office repeatedly for the last few weeks, so it'd surprise me if they were cutting staff there.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah seems like something we should track along with hiring. Great thing to know about if you're on the market.

What about the number of throwaway accounts that might necessitate? It would be better to have a more anonymous means to announce that your employer is firing.

Well, hopefully the site is written well enough to scale the users database if necessary.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#75
post #32

Back in the first dotcom bubble, we had FuckedCompany.com. It tracked these sorts of things on a daily basis.

I had Downside's Deathwatch, a simple automated cash flow analysis.[1] It's still up, frozen in time. All those "Chart is not available for this symbol" entries are dead. In the first dot-com boom, many companies went public before profitability. So anyone could see how much cash they had and how fast they were burning through it. I just calculated how much time they had left until cash went to zero. That's the "deat…

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Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#76
post #12

Back in the first dotcom bubble, we had FuckedCompany.com. It tracked these sorts of things on a daily basis.

Ahh FuckedCompany.com I remember when I sat in an interview for a position at marchFIRST in Melbourne, Australia. And when it came time in the interview for them to ask "Have you got any questions for us?" "Yeah, look this is kind of awkward, but I've seen marchFIRST mentioned quite a number of times on this website called fuckedcompany.com... Is that indicative of any issues I should be aware about?" "Oh, don't worr…

> "Oh, don't worry about that, thats just our american parent company"

Translation: "don't worry about that, that's just the company you are applying for"

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#77
post #35
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh FuckedCompany.com I remember when I sat in an interview for a position at marchFIRST in Melbourne, Australia. And when it came time in the interview for them to ask "Have you got any questions for us?" "Yeah, look this is kind of awkward, but I've seen marchFIRST mentioned quite a number of times on this website called fuckedcompany.com... Is that indicative of any issues I should be aware about?" "Oh, don't worr…

I worked at marchFirst back in the day. Even had the chance to meet Bob Bernard. That experience shaped how I run the company I co-founded 3 years ago. M1's number one problem was a culture of spending money without any thought of a return. Which was probably really odd for folks on the Whitman Hart side of the merger. It really was a merger of two opposite cultures.

This extended back to USWeb/CKS. I might still have a shirt bragging about a $300M quarter (Though if you looked at the financials,we had something like a $50M loss).

It was like the Tres Comma club, but tackier.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#78

The DNC. At least once the election is over so it doesn't look terrible for all concerned.

Are the national committees not fairly seasonal? What does a flack do in February?

They are pretty seasonal. Particularly at the one I was at (NRCC), which was focused on House races and therefore strongly centered around the 2-year cycle.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#79
The company where I work has been going through problems and for the past few months people keep being let go. After 4 months of watching an average of 2 people loose their jobs per month, I had the idea to register dayssincelastlayoff.com. My idea was to have a 'X Days Since Last Injury' kind of image on the site that would just show this stat for various companies. My thinking was that knowing how frequently a company was letting go of it's employees might be a good metric to figure out if the management knows what they are doing. And my experience (written below) leads me to believe that a company laying off a small number of employees but doing it frequently is worse than a company that just does one huge round of layoffs.

This is the first time I've been part of a company that's going through a round of layoffs, and I understand that there are business decisions that lead to this. But the way I've seen it happen here is that instead of one massive round of layoffs (which they had as well. Fired around 8 people at the same time when the down sizing started) the management here kept firing 1 or 2 people at a time every month. From a morale perspective, this felt worse than loosing a bunch of people at once. Because this way, everybody keeps thinking if they are next. Has anyone else seen this happen, and did the company survive after this? Because what's happening at my work is that now, everybody has started looking for new jobs, because of the uncertainty.

The layoffs have stopped since the last month, so I lost interest in the idea. But just to throw it out there, could something like this ever be useful? If yes I might do something useful with the domain.

Re: Ask HN: Who is firing?

#80
This is less useful than the hiring one but more entertaining and gives us a chance to boost morale of the people actually hurt. Good thread imho.
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