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Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Re: Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Post by Roboprog »

nxc18 wrote: post #7

Also, second comment: I would be pissed if someone leakes my emails to the public. I don't care who you are, that is such an invasion of privacy that it does feel cringey reading the emails even though they are now public domain. I was going to say that you should never put sensitive information in (unsecured) email because of things like this. "Never write anything you wouldn't want printed on the cover of the NY Ti…

But when the emails are about business, they belong to the business. They can be subpoenaed, and so on.

Doing stuff that is very close to official business on private email accounts is shady.

Re: Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Post by Roboprog »

nxc18 wrote: post #7

Also, second comment: I would be pissed if someone leakes my emails to the public. I don't care who you are, that is such an invasion of privacy that it does feel cringey reading the emails even though they are now public domain. I was going to say that you should never put sensitive information in (unsecured) email because of things like this. "Never write anything you wouldn't want printed on the cover of the NY Ti…

Yeah, I would like to hear about the red side, too.

Both parties represent the rich, alas.

Re: Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Post by Roboprog »

squozzer wrote: post #15
nerdponx wrote: post #4

"...what is remarkable is that, in the party of Jackson and Bryan and Roosevelt, smiling financiers now seem to stand on every corner, constantly proffering advice about this and that." The author can't possibly be this naive. I am not surprised at all; in fact, I'm glad that this is being aired. Yes, the Republican Party has been the "money in politics" whipping boy since Reagan, but it shouldn't be news to anybody…

>I personally don't have serious qualms with a Jeffersonian paternalistic republic, so long as I have the power to vote the "parents" out of power when they fail to represent my interests. Well that's the real trick, isn't it? The DNC had already picked their nominee a year or so in advance, which makes one's vote a "take it or leave it" proposition. In fairness, the RNC had probably secretly anointed Jeb, but their…

As much as I dislike Trump, it is pretty amusing watching many of the insiders squirm, since they don't like him either. (this presidential election seems to come down to a "Simpson's Treehouse of Horror" scenario where you must choose one tentacled alien or the other)

It's not hard to see a lot of the disenfranchised casting a "F@ck Y@@!" vote just to upset the apple cart for the well off. There was an interesting program on about a month ago about the Trump nomination, and who to "blame" for it.

http://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/blame-elites-tr...

Re: Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Post by Roboprog »

nippples wrote: post #3

Truly an oligarchy. It can only last so long before the social and economic fabric of the country collapses. You can already see plenty of signs of that.

The rich did just fine before the New Deal. They'll be fine again. The other 90% of us are going to be left behind, though :-(

It's too bad, though. Our country made a lot of progress and did some amazing things in the 20th century. (even if "our" elites/overlords often did horrible things to other little countries)

Re: Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Post by hga »

Roboprog wrote: post #21
nxc18 wrote: post #7

Also, second comment: I would be pissed if someone leakes my emails to the public. I don't care who you are, that is such an invasion of privacy that it does feel cringey reading the emails even though they are now public domain. I was going to say that you should never put sensitive information in (unsecured) email because of things like this. "Never write anything you wouldn't want printed on the cover of the NY Ti…

But when the emails are about business, they belong to the business. They can be subpoenaed, and so on. Doing stuff that is very close to official business on private email accounts is shady.

But what would be the grounds for a subpoena?

To the extent he was giving advice to Hillary while she was Secretary of State, I suppose, and you can be sure Judicial Watch is on that, but simply running her campaign?

Re: Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run

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Post by luxuryballs »

fowlerpower wrote: post #8

What's really troubling to me isn't so much that these guys send each other emails asking for favors. I am a lowly engineer and I have been asked if I would consider hiring someone who is just finish school. That's just human nature, people will ask for shit. They will take care of their own when they can and if there is no push back. What troubles me the most is that these emails were hacked by a foreign government…

there's no indication of foreign government involvement thus I am inclined to believe it was more likely someone on the inside trying to expose corruption, get revenge, or both
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