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Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Last year I finally switched to mac for work (I had family mac air).

Before that I always used thinkpads. I still think the 15" T60 was one of the best computers I have owned. I would have stayed with it if I could upgrade 16gb (ahh Java development). The new thinkpads are bad.

I'm sort of annoyed that I finally got used to mac and it is now down a path of crap (love the form factor... hate the Mac UI and no upgrade).

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Last year I finally switched to mac for work (I had family mac air). Before that I always used thinkpads. I still think the 15" T60 was one of the best computers I have owned. I would have stayed with it if I could upgrade 16gb (ahh Java development). The new thinkpads are bad. I'm sort of annoyed that I finally got used to mac and it is now down a path of crap (love the form factor... hate the Mac UI and no upgrade)…

> it is now down a path of crap

People always said Apple evokes feelings. Now it seems obvious that it goes both ways. I acknowledge that it is impossible to be objective on this issue (different use cases, different people, different habits and so on) but saying that they are on a "path of crap" is too strong for most of the time, I bet. I haven't ever used any Apple product, so it's just a somewhat external observation.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Lenovo ideapad (cheap ones, superfish, avoid) and Lenovo Thinkpad (no superfish, mostly good) should be thought separate manufacturers. They're not comparable."

Except they're not separate manufacturers...

Actually, they may well be separate manufacturers. See may comment above https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12845499

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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When are these publications going to figure out that volume shipped vs Apple is a pointless milestone? I'm interested in margins and revenues, but not units shipped.

> I'm interested in margins and revenues, but not units shipped. In that case Panasonic's Toughbooks would be the clear winner in the general-market space. Their low-end 'business rugged' laptops start at £1800 for an i5 spec... though with a three-year warranty. Once you move into specialist fields such as mediical and defence there are vendors whose laptops have margins that would make Apple cry, but who 'earn' tho…

> but who 'earn' those through jumping through many many regulatory hoops

They also earn it by knowing that those niches are willing to pay and normal computers can be problematic to an outright danger[1].

If you happen to have an employee that is a bit "rough" with their notebook and is a Windows user, a Panasonic Toughbook is a great buy. They are built like tanks and Panasonic knows their users.

Also, if you have a dust or grain dust[2] environment, you most definitely should buy medical computers. We have a carpentry area that needs computers and the sealed medical computers are perfect. I use http://www.cybernetman.com because I like the reps.

1) having a sealed computer that you can wipe down with Lysol is an amazing benefit for a hospital setting.

2) do not f around with normal computers in a grain dust environment unless you like fires and explosions. You want to take precautions to get proper clean airflow or use sealed computers.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit dubious of the idea that you can trust the parent company after the Superfish incident.

Why would you use preinstalled OS anyway? Every manufacturer installs ton of unneeded crapware. Just download pristine Windows iso and install it from scratch.

A clean windows install wouldn't make any difference. Lenovo installed their malware in the BIOS and set it to automatically make sure it was present, and reinstall itself if necessary, on every reboot.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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I think part of the recent sentiment towards Apple is due to the expectations game. If it had been a different company, like Asus, to introduce a very thin, very lightweight computer with excellent graphics and a touch strip, I think a lot of people would be thinking, "wow! Asus is really innovating! what a useful little machine!". But because it is Apple, the expectations go far beyond that of any other company, so the probability of disappointment is very high.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Are there any Asus laptops which work painlessly with Linux?

I run Ubuntu 16.04.1 (no Windows partition) on an Asus X555 (8GB RAM, 120GB SSD). Works extremely smooth. I've also used the same setup on a Transformer series notebook and have had no issues at all. It's honestly been my best notebook experience - having used Acer & Lenovo before (not that those notebooks were bad)

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit dubious of the idea that you can trust the parent company after the Superfish incident.

Why would you use preinstalled OS anyway? Every manufacturer installs ton of unneeded crapware. Just download pristine Windows iso and install it from scratch.

Because I shouldn't have to do work just so the machine is usable. If I bought a PC, I would buy it from Microsoft, as they don't sell them with all the crap.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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I think part of the recent sentiment towards Apple is due to the expectations game. If it had been a different company, like Asus, to introduce a very thin, very lightweight computer with excellent graphics and a touch strip, I think a lot of people would be thinking, "wow! Asus is really innovating! what a useful little machine!". But because it is Apple, the expectations go far beyond that of any other company, so…

It's not just the expectations, Apple's price tags demand innovation. If they're not doing anything special you can get much cheaper hardware.
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