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Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Post by dazc »

Raed667 wrote: post #23
bad_user wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a Thinkpad Edge, the cheap Thinkpad line. The build and the quality feel very cheap, but just as you, I've had it for 3 years, I've abused it as my work laptop for 2 years and had no problems with it.

Exactly my thought, the build quality (plastic, stain resistance, etc) and screen resolution are on the cheap side, however if you're like me and you don't care about that sort of things (in favor of something affordable and "just works") I really suggest some ideapads.

Been running a cheap Ideapad for 4 years - waiting for it to die so I can upgrade but it refuses to do so.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Post by otterley »

anexprogrammer wrote: post #26
aq3cn wrote: post #6

Quality wise who is better and reliable as a Windows or Linux machine manufacturer. Help me create a sequence: 1. Razer 2. Asus 3. Microsoft 4. Dell 5. Lenovo 6. HP 7. Acer 8. Sony (?) 9. Samsung Apple (?) Clevo (?) Toshiba (?) system76 (?) alienware (?)

Lenovo ideapad (cheap ones, superfish, avoid) and Lenovo Thinkpad (no superfish, mostly good) should be thought separate manufacturers. They're not comparable. For quality and reliability. This is astonishingly subjective and quite probably wrong :p 1. Thinkpad. Not as good as they were, but appear to be trying to improve again. Usually a fairly safe bet for BSD & Linux drivers. Support (UK) have been excellent. 2. D…

Dell and HP have separate business and consumer laptop lines and they're not comparable in terms of quality. A Dell Latitude (historically good) is nothing like an Inspiron or XPS (inferior).

Also one mustn't discount post sale service in evaluating options. The value of a particular laptop is more than the box itself. What happens if you have problems? How easy is it to get it fixed? How long will you be without it for in the meantime?

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

#33

Post by cryptrash »

anexprogrammer wrote: post #26
aq3cn wrote: post #6

Quality wise who is better and reliable as a Windows or Linux machine manufacturer. Help me create a sequence: 1. Razer 2. Asus 3. Microsoft 4. Dell 5. Lenovo 6. HP 7. Acer 8. Sony (?) 9. Samsung Apple (?) Clevo (?) Toshiba (?) system76 (?) alienware (?)

Lenovo ideapad (cheap ones, superfish, avoid) and Lenovo Thinkpad (no superfish, mostly good) should be thought separate manufacturers. They're not comparable. For quality and reliability. This is astonishingly subjective and quite probably wrong :p 1. Thinkpad. Not as good as they were, but appear to be trying to improve again. Usually a fairly safe bet for BSD & Linux drivers. Support (UK) have been excellent. 2. D…

How can thinkpads reasonably be trusted after superfish though? Some security agencies don't even allow Lenovo hardware onsite, sort of implies something...

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

#34

Post by Raed667 »

dazc wrote: post #31
Raed667 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my thought, the build quality (plastic, stain resistance, etc) and screen resolution are on the cheap side, however if you're like me and you don't care about that sort of things (in favor of something affordable and "just works") I really suggest some ideapads.

Been running a cheap Ideapad for 4 years - waiting for it to die so I can upgrade but it refuses to do so.

I have an ACER that I bought on my first year of engineering school, it refuses to die as well.

Finally gave up and now use it as a home computer (still running fine after some cleaning and hard-drive change)

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

#35

Post by anexprogrammer »

SamUK96 wrote: post #16
aq3cn wrote: post #6

Quality wise who is better and reliable as a Windows or Linux machine manufacturer. Help me create a sequence: 1. Razer 2. Asus 3. Microsoft 4. Dell 5. Lenovo 6. HP 7. Acer 8. Sony (?) 9. Samsung Apple (?) Clevo (?) Toshiba (?) system76 (?) alienware (?)

Not sure if this is anecdotal or not, but the Dell business-laptop lines (Lattitude et al) have been having hard-drive corruption problems at the company where I work for ages. As for Razer, I hear their products are excellent (laptop wise). As for their peripherals, please guys, there's Roccat just down the road and it's cheaper and better. With Clevo resellers, you get excellent components for the money, but the ch…

> As for their peripherals, please guys, there's Roccat just down the road

Ahhhh, Roccat, the makers of the least reliable keyboard I have ever owned in 30+ years. Email support is terrible. Amazon refunded after the 4th broke.

The Kone mouse I bought at the same time has been lovely and is still going.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

#36

Post by zacharytelschow »

SamUK96 wrote: post #16
aq3cn wrote: post #6

Quality wise who is better and reliable as a Windows or Linux machine manufacturer. Help me create a sequence: 1. Razer 2. Asus 3. Microsoft 4. Dell 5. Lenovo 6. HP 7. Acer 8. Sony (?) 9. Samsung Apple (?) Clevo (?) Toshiba (?) system76 (?) alienware (?)

Not sure if this is anecdotal or not, but the Dell business-laptop lines (Lattitude et al) have been having hard-drive corruption problems at the company where I work for ages. As for Razer, I hear their products are excellent (laptop wise). As for their peripherals, please guys, there's Roccat just down the road and it's cheaper and better. With Clevo resellers, you get excellent components for the money, but the ch…

> Not sure if this is anecdotal or not, but the Dell business-laptop lines (Lattitude et al) have been having hard-drive corruption problems at the company where I work for ages.

Here too.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

#38

Post by bildung »

cryptrash wrote: post #33
anexprogrammer wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo ideapad (cheap ones, superfish, avoid) and Lenovo Thinkpad (no superfish, mostly good) should be thought separate manufacturers. They're not comparable. For quality and reliability. This is astonishingly subjective and quite probably wrong :p 1. Thinkpad. Not as good as they were, but appear to be trying to improve again. Usually a fairly safe bet for BSD & Linux drivers. Support (UK) have been excellent. 2. D…

How can thinkpads reasonably be trusted after superfish though? Some security agencies don't even allow Lenovo hardware onsite, sort of implies something...

"Lenovo ideapad (cheap ones, superfish, avoid) and Lenovo Thinkpad (no superfish, mostly good) should be thought separate manufacturers. They're not comparable."

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Post by georgeecollins »

aq3cn wrote: post #6

Quality wise who is better and reliable as a Windows or Linux machine manufacturer. Help me create a sequence: 1. Razer 2. Asus 3. Microsoft 4. Dell 5. Lenovo 6. HP 7. Acer 8. Sony (?) 9. Samsung Apple (?) Clevo (?) Toshiba (?) system76 (?) alienware (?)

Anecdote is not data but I have had good experiences with mid-range Toshiba laptops (me or my family have had 3) and now lately I bought my kids a couple of mid range Lenovas (2) and they seem fine. I just got an MSI and it seems good and a good value.

I use MacBook Pros at work a lot and they are fine, but they seem very overpriced.

Re: Asus to surpass Apple in notebook sales: TrendForce

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Post by aq3cn »

m_mueller wrote: post #27
aq3cn wrote: post #6

Quality wise who is better and reliable as a Windows or Linux machine manufacturer. Help me create a sequence: 1. Razer 2. Asus 3. Microsoft 4. Dell 5. Lenovo 6. HP 7. Acer 8. Sony (?) 9. Samsung Apple (?) Clevo (?) Toshiba (?) system76 (?) alienware (?)

Anyone of those making touchpads that come close to Apple?

I am a touch typist and rely on keyboard shortcuts for most of the tasks I do. I also carry a mouse when I carry Windows machine. I find mouse more accurate and reliable in comparison to touch pad.

As I own a mac I have some bitter experience with it when it comes to keyboard shortcuts. For example:

If you cmd+M to minimize an app, how would you bring it back.

Navigating in application windows in Mission control using arrow keys.

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