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Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by regecks »

nzoschke wrote: post #13

This guide is spot on for WordPress on AWS. The persistent and shared EFS volume was the missing piece for running WordPress without frustrating patches. And CloudFormation is the AWS best practice. Convox has a few serious WordPress installs. The only difference is that it uses ECS so those EC2 instances can be utilized for more apps. Also you can hack on the WordPress site locally with Docker via 'convox start' htt…

Do you have anything to say about EFS and WordPress (or other PHP CMS that are basically designed for a single instance?)

Latency on stat() - PHP is often a oop-monster these days with thousands of fs reads as it loads the code? (there are certainly ways to dodge that overhead though).

Have you seen the filesystem stall for any reason? Any caveats with concurrent writers (such as cache/ directories or generated images with deterministic paths etc).

You say without frustrating patches - are there any general limitations with using EFS?

Have you used self-managed NFS for the same purpose before? Any comparison with EFS?

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by stevenhubertron »

nzoschke wrote: post #14
Ciantic wrote: post #9

Before you hop on board with this "pain free" solution, you should accept the fact that you may end up maintaining this: https://github.com/widdix/aws-cf-templates/blob/master/wordp... There should be easier way, e.g. in Azure you can start WordPress (includes MySQL, limited to one app service instance) with one click, not sure what are the costs of maintaining that, but at least starting one in that case is pain fre…

Infrastructure as code offers a lower maintenance cost over time in many scenarios. Sure you can click to set up WordPress on other hosts. But how do you scale capacity of the servers or the database? How do you peer the network to your other cloud resources? How do you mirror the stack in another region? With CloudFormation resource management is a few API calls away. You can also use CloudFormation in point and cli…

I gotta shout out wpengine which has been hosting sites for me for years. Scales up with demand and managed so I don't have to play devop. I don't consider myself a WordPress guy but it does fit a number or use cases.

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by hiou »

trprog wrote: post #20
hiou wrote: post #18

Why is anyone running WordPress anymore.? So many better options.100s if not 1,000s. The fact that you need elaborate guides to host it one of the most common hosting providers is yet another example. It's junk. Time to move on. Edit: and the down votes are why this piece of garbage lives on. Please stop trying to hide how awful WordPress is. We all know it's terrible. Just because you work on it for a living doesn't…

Because moving an existing site to another platform is non-trivial. Sure I could figure out how to move over my theme, hundreds of posts, my menus, sidebars, hundreds of images, and all of my registered users. Or I could just stick with the existing good enough system and go do something else.

Sure, you need to support legacy software that is so junky you have no way to migrate off the platform. You're trapped in the dump. Even more reason to avoid WordPress and not get trapped in your situation.

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by slig »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #7

I can host several WordPress sites on a 5$ / month droplet. How much would this AWS version cost? In 99,99% of the cases it's not every an option

Stick CloudFlare as a CDN and configure it, enable some caching plugin on WP and you'll need some serious traffic to saturate that small droplet.

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by hiou »

tpaksoy wrote: post #19
hiou wrote: post #18

Why is anyone running WordPress anymore.? So many better options.100s if not 1,000s. The fact that you need elaborate guides to host it one of the most common hosting providers is yet another example. It's junk. Time to move on. Edit: and the down votes are why this piece of garbage lives on. Please stop trying to hide how awful WordPress is. We all know it's terrible. Just because you work on it for a living doesn't…

Can you list a few? I'm genuinely curious which ones you consider so much better.

What your requirements? With Google rendering JavaScript any static site generator is probably going to be better. If you need crud functionality any number of hosted and open source crud providers are available. Or just use a hosted site builder. They are all better at this point.

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by regecks »

Ciantic wrote: post #9

Before you hop on board with this "pain free" solution, you should accept the fact that you may end up maintaining this: https://github.com/widdix/aws-cf-templates/blob/master/wordp... There should be easier way, e.g. in Azure you can start WordPress (includes MySQL, limited to one app service instance) with one click, not sure what are the costs of maintaining that, but at least starting one in that case is pain fre…

Funny, I had the opposite reaction to that file - appreciation that the whole stack is encapsulated so well.

Maybe that is from having been through the ad-hoc or "well, its easy to spin up, but this only works for a single node" setup roundabout a few times.

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by vacri »

hiou wrote: post #24
trprog wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because moving an existing site to another platform is non-trivial. Sure I could figure out how to move over my theme, hundreds of posts, my menus, sidebars, hundreds of images, and all of my registered users. Or I could just stick with the existing good enough system and go do something else.

Sure, you need to support legacy software that is so junky you have no way to migrate off the platform. You're trapped in the dump. Even more reason to avoid WordPress and not get trapped in your situation.

You're complaining about lock-in, yet recommend hosted site-builders?

Re: Wordpress on AWS: smooth and pain free

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Post by fps »

hiou wrote: post #18

Why is anyone running WordPress anymore.? So many better options.100s if not 1,000s. The fact that you need elaborate guides to host it one of the most common hosting providers is yet another example. It's junk. Time to move on. Edit: and the down votes are why this piece of garbage lives on. Please stop trying to hide how awful WordPress is. We all know it's terrible. Just because you work on it for a living doesn't…

I manage a wordpress installation for a school community site - wordpress's greatest strength (and biggest source of frustration) is it's flexible and popular plugin ecosystem that gives me useful plugins, including a shopping cart system for fundraising, an events calendar and photo galleries, all managed from the same WYSIWYG interface as a blogging engine and a decent CMS.

I could re-write all those plugins in another CMS, but the fact that wordpress is so popular and so flexible is the reason I don't see myself replacing it any time soon.

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