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No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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It will be interesting to see how it competes against more traditional solar systems. Right now I can get a 10KW system, with an inverter and installation, all for AUD$9000. If Tesla could be competitive at that price point, both in terms of raw cost and the capacity of the system installed, then I'd be all over it. Otherwise I might just go the regular route as not many people look at my roof.

Heck I barely do!

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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I'm curious if anyone has stats on what percentage of houses have an unobstructed southern roof (for those in the Northern hemisphere)? My house has seasonally adjusted nanotechnology self-replicating shade "panels" that block considerable sunlight in the spring and summer months (MTBF: 100+ years). The big downside is cleaning up the unused panels in the autumn.

https://www.google.com/get/sunroof#p=0

Very cool! It seems like it worked for my place:

"0 sq feet available for solar panels Based on 3D modeling of your roof and nearby trees"

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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I'm curious if anyone has stats on what percentage of houses have an unobstructed southern roof (for those in the Northern hemisphere)? My house has seasonally adjusted nanotechnology self-replicating shade "panels" that block considerable sunlight in the spring and summer months (MTBF: 100+ years). The big downside is cleaning up the unused panels in the autumn.

You mean vines?

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

#44

'No one saw Tesla's solar roof coming...' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_shingle Solar shingles, also called photovoltaic shingles, are solar panels or solar modules designed to look like and function as conventional roofing materials, such as asphalt shingle or slate, while also producing electricity. Solar shingles are a type of solar energy solution known as building-integrated photovoltaics (BIPV). There are…

Those shingles look awful, eg. http://roofpedia.com/solar-roof-shingles/#pictures.

Are there existing solar shingles that look like conventional roofs? Otherwise, maybe that was what made those solar shingles fail to find a market.

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

#45

I think it's interesting looking at it from the other end - as a homeowner, I can tell you that roofing is an expensive proposition. If this can be competitive with traditional roofing and have a longer life expectancy, I'd buy in a heartbeat. It has the potential to displace thousands of tons of asphalt shingles per year with the equivalent of recyclable glass, which is pretty fantastic. The embodied energy of produ…

Roof replacement is quite a dirty business, in more than one sense of the term, and there are regions where whole roofs are replaced by the majority of insured homeowners every 10 years or less. Any dent that can be made in this problem is a good thing, and this looks to be quite a large dent indeed.

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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post #38

I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels like this is possibly the iphone moment of Solarcity/Tesla: an old-ish idea, made sexy and tasty to consumers, together with technology reaching a tipping point(and also Musk again finding a way to maximally exploit government subsidies for clean tech.) The tesla car itself could count as well, but felt less "design driven" imo. If this fails, everyone will call it obviously du…

Another side note: it always annoys me when people insinuate that Musk using government funds is a bad thing.

The government is literally just US....it's our money and a collection of individuals from among us who we've appointed to handle the general administration of us and the space we take up.

Why should American entrepreneurs, particularly ones doing such an outstanding job of moving technology in a positive direction, not get our financial support (a.k.a. the government's support)?

Who exactly is losing out when we support our own business initiatives with our own money?

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I need to replace my roof and I've been quoted almost $20k. If these are within $5k of that price, then I will jump on it.

From my experience, the price of installing solar on 1/4th of your roof is more expensive than installing a full, brand new roof. Beyond that, not all parts of the roof are created equal for solar - some will generated much less energy than others. E.g. a neighbor's tree blocks a fair portion of our roof from the sun. You can already get a $0 electricity bill without having full roof solar. I can't see it being anyth…

It's already obvious this isn't targeted at your garden variety practical consumer. As the article points out, the demo'd roofing styles are all luxury roofing.

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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post #38

I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels like this is possibly the iphone moment of Solarcity/Tesla: an old-ish idea, made sexy and tasty to consumers, together with technology reaching a tipping point(and also Musk again finding a way to maximally exploit government subsidies for clean tech.) The tesla car itself could count as well, but felt less "design driven" imo. If this fails, everyone will call it obviously du…

> I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels like this is possibly the iphone moment of Solarcity/Tesla: an old-ish idea, made sexy and tasty to consumers, together with technology reaching a tipping point

Except one ingredient is missing: most people cannot afford one, even if they tried really hard.

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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I'm curious - I still haven't seen any details on how these are installed. How are things wired - does the wiring run under the shingles themselves? Also, how does it work with odd sized/shaped roofs - e.g.: something that isn't exactly a multiple of 1/2 a shingle?

Re: No One Saw Tesla’s Solar Roof Coming

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I had serious misgivings when Tesla/SolarCity announced a switch of focus to building-integrated PV. Historically, BIPV is where a PV technology goes to die after it's failed to compete against incumbent module designs. But these have far better aesthetics than previous BIPV efforts. They look better individually and they aren't clumped in one odd shiny patch on the roof like past BIPV. Search for images of solar shi…

>>SC will be able to have a monopoly on these modules and their installation for a long time to come

Is that really Elon Musk wants, monopoly ?

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