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Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

dschuetz wrote: post #19

Ah, yes, as if Linux is not enough as a community driven OS. Let's make other one! Where anyone can make crappy software and be offended if someone pointed it out! I appreciate the idea of making a difference (I badly want to have and use an unproblematic OS), but making an OS out of the lack of another major alternatives is just... a waste of time!

This is a really narrow minded point of view.

"Ford already made a car! Making another one is a waste of time!"

"IBM already made a computer! Making another one is a waste of time!"

"Nokia already made a phone! Making another one is a waste of time!"

People choose projects they're passionated about. The majority will likely be a waste of time in the grand scheme of things. Who cares? It's what they want to work on. Is it likely to overtake Linux? No. Is it likely to gain enough adoption to merit taking a look at it? Maybe.

You don't even know if the way its architected would provide a better way at doing something another existing operating system cannot and yet you're immediately writing it off?

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by old-gregg »

CalChris wrote: post #7

Oh please. You have to start somewhere and this is where they're starting. By comparison, Linus' first announcement was: Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resemble…

Actually there's plenty of docs to read: http://www.minocacorp.com/doc/1375/api/KERNEL_API/

I haven't found something like an architecture overview of the kernel itself, but the docs story isn't bad for a 2-ppl team. Kudos.

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by dewyatt »

The code gives me flashbacks to working with the Windows API.

Cool project though and it's nice that they already have a handful of drivers.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm not saying it's bad at all, they're just using a very verbose naming convention that I don't particularly like working with.

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by formula1 »

agildehaus wrote: post #16
formula1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their competition is dsl, arch, raspbarrien and other small/IoT OSs. Not to say their product is worse. But why are they forking instead of supporting existing technologies? Not saying their work isnt useful. But theres an argument to be made for "why"?

Because they can. There's your why. Now you get to answer the "why not?".

Because taking away mindshare instead of consolidating efforts hurts all parties. Competition is often good when done for very good reasons, iojs vs nodejs, proprietary goals vs purely open source. Their goal is the same goal as many other projects however, instead of supporting those projects they are releasing their own which will likely have to go through a LOT of growing pains to compete with current projects. Simply releasing your own OS (written by two guys) seems naive at best and arrogant at worst.

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by rayiner »

CalChris wrote: post #7

Oh please. You have to start somewhere and this is where they're starting. By comparison, Linus' first announcement was: Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resemble…

Hosting Node and Python already is a hell of a first release announcement.

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by qz_ »

>Under the hood, Minoca contains a powerful driver model between device drivers and the kernel. The idea is that drivers can be written in a forward compatible manner, so kernel level components can be upgraded without requiring a recompilation of all device drivers.

This sounds really smart and it looks great overall <3

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by mememachine »

CalChris wrote: post #7

Oh please. You have to start somewhere and this is where they're starting. By comparison, Linus' first announcement was: Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resemble…

Ok, but why are they doing this?

Re: Minoca OS: A new open source operating system

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Post by bjt2n3904 »

Any images out there for Beaglebone? Quite interested!

Edit: Haaa, use your eyes and you shall see!

http://www.minocacorp.com/download/#beaglebone-black

Edit: Boo :( I haven't gotten it to boot yet. Boot messages are as follows:

    Minoca Firmware Loader
    Boot Device: 00000008
    Launching bbonefw.bin.
    Jumping to 82000000...
    !
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