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Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Post by dstryr »

Lio wrote: post #71
dstryr wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you that we are constantly bombarded with propaganda, but a lot of the backlash is coming from long-time Apple users such as myself, who feel that Apple is no longer making computers for us. And you know what? That's perfectly fine, they're a business and are catering to the high end where the margins are best. The proof is littered all over HN and Reddit where blog posts all begin with the same defense,…

I agree in that I wish there were better generic Linux laptop alternatives to Apple but I find something very distasteful about a company like Xiaomi. They're not quite passing off their goods as Apple's but they're not far off it. Apple's current vision might not be my current vision but at least it's authentically theirs.

I agree with this as well and regret having bought a Xiaomi phone despite its great value. This is the reason I will not be purchasing this laptop.

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Post by SecConsult »

whytaka wrote: post #26

Microsoft is innovative because you can now purchase a dedicated hardware peripheral for some software feature the touchscreen was designed to replace. Let's completely forget that Microsoft 'upgrades' your OS without your permission, spies on you, embeds ads into the Start Menu, and their OEMs like Lenovo will listen in on everything you do at the hardware level. In my opinion, these are actual reasons a company sho…

Dumbest apple fanboi I've seen today and it's 9AM. Apple just oversells security and "cool" design. But in reality its just expensive garbage, no real hardware power, no real security

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Post by zpallin »

Neither Microsoft nor Apple are "brave". Both have tons of cash and recognition. Neither are taking a company-threatening risk to release their weird attempts at paradigm shifts in technology. Stop calling it "brave" dammit or that word is going to become as meaningless as "pivot".

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Post by duaneb »

whytaka wrote: post #26

Microsoft is innovative because you can now purchase a dedicated hardware peripheral for some software feature the touchscreen was designed to replace. Let's completely forget that Microsoft 'upgrades' your OS without your permission, spies on you, embeds ads into the Start Menu, and their OEMs like Lenovo will listen in on everything you do at the hardware level. In my opinion, these are actual reasons a company sho…

Your argument seems to come down to the idea that apple products are good investments. However, this isn't much use if they keep ignoring how their users use their computers. All I wanted was the same product line with 32 gigs of memory. Looks like I'll never get that computer. What's the point in investing heavily in a different computing future than you want?

Microsoft may not be any better on the software end of things, but at least they're doing interesting things with hardware, WITHOUT killing what works.

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Post by bch »

whytaka wrote: post #26

Microsoft is innovative because you can now purchase a dedicated hardware peripheral for some software feature the touchscreen was designed to replace. Let's completely forget that Microsoft 'upgrades' your OS without your permission, spies on you, embeds ads into the Start Menu, and their OEMs like Lenovo will listen in on everything you do at the hardware level. In my opinion, these are actual reasons a company sho…

> OEMs like Lenovo will listen in on everything you do at the hardware level.

Are you talking about this[0] (which seems inconclusive), or something else? All other spying incidents I see from Lenovo are software-based.

[0] http://www.geek.com/chips/spy-agencies-shun-lenovo-finding-b...

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Post by drusepth »

wmccullough wrote: post #140

Lot of people in this thread crapping on Microsoft. I don't know that Microsoft is more brave or more innovative than Apple yet, but I know one thing, they are more brave and innovative than Microsoft five years ago. That's all that matters. While I'm sure the grand plan is to eat Apple's lunch, they seem more focused on being better than themselves. I think they are onto something with the Surface line, they just ne…

>They lost a ton of ground they were gaining because they chose to force upgrades to Windows 10. I can actually get why they did this from a corporate perspective (Less OSes to support, therefore more money freed up to do other things), but as a user it sucks.

Why does this suck for users? This is actually one of my favorite aspects of W10.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Post by mercurysmessage »

jamesrcole wrote: post #189
mercurysmessage wrote: post #131

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Wireless will never have as good of a sound quality as wired does, however. It's a trade-off.

I don't have any specific knowledge about this stuff, but how could that possibly be true? If quality is just a matter of sending enough information through then why could wireless never be enough?

It's just that you will always have a better connection and be able to send more over a wire. cat5/6/7 vs. wifi, wired vs. wireless power, etc.

Surely you've seen a speed difference with a wired internet connection compared to wireless?

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Post by amnesiac_200 »

So far at least; Candy Crush Saga has not repeatedly downloaded onto my Mac without my permission and installed itself into my Dock; as 'a suggestion'. In this respect at least; I will take the less innovative Apple every time. Microsoft have embraced and extended the Apple App store concept into something profoundly irritating; intrusive and annoying.

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Post by benaadams »

curt15 wrote: post #117
UK-AL wrote: post #84

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"Let's completely forget that Microsoft 'upgrades' your OS without your permission, spies on you, embeds ads into the Start Menu, and their OEMs like Lenovo will listen in on everything you do at the hardware level. In my opinion, these are actual reasons a company should completely fail and dissolve." - an google and apple don't do this?

When was the last time you took a walk and came back to your Apple computer threatening to restart in 10 minutes to update itself? This happened to me several times in Windows 10 ever since the Anniversary update which removed the option to have windows merely notify the user to schedule a restart (even for the "Professional" edition -- https://gbatemp.net/threads/windows-10-anniversary-update-no... ). Eventually I g…

Just leave notepad open with some unsaved changes in it; it will lock it from rebooting

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Post by jamesrcole »

mercurysmessage wrote: post #227
jamesrcole wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have any specific knowledge about this stuff, but how could that possibly be true? If quality is just a matter of sending enough information through then why could wireless never be enough?

It's just that you will always have a better connection and be able to send more over a wire. cat5/6/7 vs. wifi, wired vs. wireless power, etc. Surely you've seen a speed difference with a wired internet connection compared to wireless?

The issue is really: how much do you need to be able to send before you reach the limits of human hearing (our ability to distinguish any differences), and will wireless be able to cater to that or a reasonable approximation to that?

> Surely you've seen a speed difference with a wired internet connection compared to wireless?

yeah, but note also that what I was responding to was you saying wireless would never have as good of a sound quality. "Never" is a long time.

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