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Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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I'm getting a Dell XPS 13 9350 and will replace the wifi card with a DW1560. The guide that explains the details about installing macOS on this machine is at https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/guide-dell-xps-13-9350-si...

Why replace the wifi card if you don't mind me asking?

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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I've compared a load of new laptops on my spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nnmI9pN9rBMBJHE1gqYA... Compares CPU Passmark score, GPU Flops, Display gamut Rec 2020. Might be of interest. Hackintosh laptops though are hit and miss. I'm not sure if Apple even have kexts for modern Nvidia GPUs? EDIT: There are no Macs packing Nvidia 10xx GPUs. So yes, there might be a problem.

Nice spreadsheet. Will you also list the MBPR13 with 16GB RAM (BTO)? What's the difference between the Dell in row 26 vs row 29? They seem to be the same model (different price). Is the Dell XPS 13 with the i7-7500U already in the list? The MBPr13 doesn't even have an nVidia or AMD GPU, just the Intel GPU that's part of the CPU. As a developer I do not care about the color gamut that much, that's more for the designe…

Yes.

But if you bought one of the PC laptops linked in my document, you might end up with a system with unsupported graphics.

MIGHT.

I had huge problems with hackintosh in the past because my GPU was newer than the Kexts OSX had available at the time.

EDIT: You edited your comment. The difference was the cheaper model shipped with Ubuntu. Didn't notice because I was watching Star Trek. Haha.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

NVidia has kexts available for Mac that support pretty much all of their modern cards.

There are no Macs packing Nvidia 10xx GPUs. I had problems in the past because I was using a Hackintosh with an AMD card that didn't work with OSX at the time.

wut?

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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I'm getting a Dell XPS 13 9350 and will replace the wifi card with a DW1560. The guide that explains the details about installing macOS on this machine is at https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/guide-dell-xps-13-9350-si...

Why replace the wifi card if you don't mind me asking?

Apparently the wifi card comes with the laptop does not yet work with macOS.

Both are 802.11ac capable however. I think the DW1560 is a bit slower.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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If you are a professional app developer (you make a living out of it) then Hackintosh is a bad alternative. It can get your developer account, and apps, banned by Apple. On top of that, you can get sued.

Provide sources. Multiple acquittances have been working on custom built Hackintoshes for years without _any_ issues from Apple.

Previous success does not mean it's a good or advisable idea. This is the kind of thing companies will tolerate until they decide not too and then drop a horde of lawyers on a few 'examples'.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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I'm getting a Dell XPS 13 9350 and will replace the wifi card with a DW1560. The guide that explains the details about installing macOS on this machine is at https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/guide-dell-xps-13-9350-si...

Why replace the wifi card if you don't mind me asking?

Probably Mac OS X doesn't support the original WiFi card.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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If you are a professional app developer (you make a living out of it) then Hackintosh is a bad alternative. It can get your developer account, and apps, banned by Apple. On top of that, you can get sued.

Provide sources. Multiple acquittances have been working on custom built Hackintoshes for years without _any_ issues from Apple.

The source is the license agreement for macOS. It explicitly says that the software is licensed to run on Apple branded computers. If you run it elsewhere you are running it unlicensed.

Can you also provide a source? Would your acquaintances mind if you provided links to the apps they have developed with their Hackintoshes for years?

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice spreadsheet. Will you also list the MBPR13 with 16GB RAM (BTO)? What's the difference between the Dell in row 26 vs row 29? They seem to be the same model (different price). Is the Dell XPS 13 with the i7-7500U already in the list? The MBPr13 doesn't even have an nVidia or AMD GPU, just the Intel GPU that's part of the CPU. As a developer I do not care about the color gamut that much, that's more for the designe…

Yes. But if you bought one of the PC laptops linked in my document, you might end up with a system with unsupported graphics. MIGHT. I had huge problems with hackintosh in the past because my GPU was newer than the Kexts OSX had available at the time. EDIT: You edited your comment. The difference was the cheaper model shipped with Ubuntu. Didn't notice because I was watching Star Trek. Haha.

Good point. The i7-7500U is too new for now to consider running macOS on it.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Provide sources. Multiple acquittances have been working on custom built Hackintoshes for years without _any_ issues from Apple.

Previous success does not mean it's a good or advisable idea. This is the kind of thing companies will tolerate until they decide not too and then drop a horde of lawyers on a few 'examples'.

I guess it's just a matter risk tolerance then.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best Hackintosh laptop for ios app developers?

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If you are a professional app developer (you make a living out of it) then Hackintosh is a bad alternative. It can get your developer account, and apps, banned by Apple. On top of that, you can get sued.

I could imagine having a Mac Mini to do the publishing and the rest of your development on a more powerful Hackintosh. In fact I'll probably end up in that boat myself.

I knew a bunch of people developing for iOs in college who took this road.

They used some university Macs to publishing, but did their dev work on Hackintosh to avoid spending all day in a musty computer lab. It worked quite well, barring the usual issue of Hackintosh being a bit flaky. If you had to buy a machine to publish on it would be a bit less appealing, but picking up an old Mac on Craigslist sounds worth it to develop as you like and publish 'legitimately'.

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