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Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Opportunities: - A Thunderbolt 3 dock that has all the missing ports in new MacBook Pro - Lenovo, HP, Asus release properly supported notebook with Linux similar to Dell XPS Developer edition. Makes desktop Linux available across PC industries. - Microsoft release Surface Pro and Surface Book with Mubuntu (MS version of Ubuntu, since MS already has working relationship with Canonical) - Cloud service via emulator tha…

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Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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I asked the same question and read replies to others. Just a quick summary; - Lenovo has decent laptops. Personally, I'd not touch anything from Lenovo after their shady stuff. (Maybe not an issue on Linux, maybe it is. I don't trust them) - Dell XPS series are really good but people complain about coil whine, worse battery life compared to MBP and hit/miss trackpad. It might not be that big of a problem. And if you…

Was waiting more than an 4 years for replacing MacBook Pro 2012 which is the last MBP you can upgrade on your own. and finally after seeing the event - went with dell outlet new latitude E5470 with Core i7 6820HQ the same processor used in 15" MBP version selling at $2399 . It has 8gb Ram and SSD for $635. Will add additional 8gb for $40, will receive it tomorrow . I probably would never buy MBP again since there is no bang for buck . would be happy to pay twice the premium for apple but 4 times forget it. They are selling ultra books as pro's for premium . It's more like cheating and milking customers than providing value.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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I honestly don't know what everyone is complaining about WRT the Dell XPS line. I have a refurbished Dell XPS 13 (Skylake) -- NON-Developer Edition even -- and I'm very happy running Arch Linux without any headaches. It's a great laptop with excellent battery life and performance. I don't experience coil-whine at all. (Although, I've heard the rumor that the coil whine is a bigger deal on the XPS 15.)

Naturally, the Arch Linux community has an extremely helpful wiki to help you get set up:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_(2016)

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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This isn't really a recommendation, but if I could have it my way, I'd take this computer, except with OS X: https://system76.com/laptops/oryx • 15.6" 1080p IPS LED-backlit Display • NVIDIA GeForce 1070 8GB • 3.5 GHz i7-6700HQ • 32 GB DD4 at 2400MHz (upgradeable to 64 GB) • OS Drive: 512 GB NVMe (PCI with 2600MB/s read and 1600 MB/s write) • 2nd Drive: 2.5" 1 TB SSD • 1080p HD Webcam • Kensington® Lock port • 1x Giga…

* off-center trackpad (of unknown quality) is right there a no-go for me...

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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Important corrections: - Lenovo's ThinkPad line has decent laptops. Lenovo's more popular line, Ideapad, which are branded just "Lenovo", are terrible. - Dell XPS series are good, but if you're looking to run Linux on them, make sure to get the Developer Editions

Instead of XPSs, we bought Precisions 15 5000 at work [1]. They are basically XPS 15, (virtually indistinguishable apart for the engraving on the bottom), but you can spec them to bits (you can even get a Xeon processor if you want,have them with no OS / Ubuntu). All of us are reasonably happy with them. [1]: http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/precision-m5510-workstatio...

These look very good, thanks for the recommendation.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

#126
post #23

I asked the same question and read replies to others. Just a quick summary; - Lenovo has decent laptops. Personally, I'd not touch anything from Lenovo after their shady stuff. (Maybe not an issue on Linux, maybe it is. I don't trust them) - Dell XPS series are really good but people complain about coil whine, worse battery life compared to MBP and hit/miss trackpad. It might not be that big of a problem. And if you…

Important corrections: - Lenovo's ThinkPad line has decent laptops. Lenovo's more popular line, Ideapad, which are branded just "Lenovo", are terrible. - Dell XPS series are good, but if you're looking to run Linux on them, make sure to get the Developer Editions

Lenovo Thinkpad T540p - the worst track pad I have ever used - truly abysmal. Avoid, avoid, avoid!!

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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If the T460 had the same display options available, it would be the perfect alternative: Two DIMM slots, two mass storage slots, two batteries, and still quite compact.

Seems slightly bulkier and 20% heavier, but that's not too bad. I wonder if the T460s panel works fine in the T460 if you're willing to do the swap.

It will, but you'll void your warranty, and it's annoying that Lenovo doesn't offer it themselves – all their notebooks are built to order anyway, so they're actively hurting themselves by artificially constraining their customers.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

#128
post #23

I asked the same question and read replies to others. Just a quick summary; - Lenovo has decent laptops. Personally, I'd not touch anything from Lenovo after their shady stuff. (Maybe not an issue on Linux, maybe it is. I don't trust them) - Dell XPS series are really good but people complain about coil whine, worse battery life compared to MBP and hit/miss trackpad. It might not be that big of a problem. And if you…

If you don't mind Linux, https://system76.com/laptops has some great machines - the Oryx Pro is a pretty slim, aluminium laptop with much more performance per buck than the MBP.

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Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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If you don't mind Linux, https://system76.com/laptops has some great machines - the Oryx Pro is a pretty slim, aluminium laptop with much more performance per buck than the MBP.

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Who can? :-) It seems to be back now BTW.

Re: Ask HN: Disappointed by the new Macbook, what alternatives do we have?

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I'm really skeptical about Lenovo because of the proprietary software issues they've had, even read things about bioses with sketchy stuff in them which couldn't be flashed and such.

Erm which proprietary software issues are you referring to?

This http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/lenovo-rootkit-malware.html
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