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NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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> I'm in the fortunate position that this is possible for me since I live in the city I can't approve. You've made the choice. You've paid for this choice. People keep claiming that I'm lucky to live close from my work and not have children. I was a choice, and blaming it on chance undervalues the effort we make (i.e. paying twice the price for housing and/or only choosing among jobs within a certain radius of public…

We had meat and heating before petrol, why would you expect it to go away? Are you in California by chance? Because you seem to ignore the fact that large part of already-inhabitated world is unlivable without heating (and, possibly, meat). Canada, Scandinavian countries, Russia, even then Germany and Poland, and as south as Bosnia. It's as if you were thinking that warm countries becoming unlivable is tragedy, but c…

> but cold countries becoming unlivable is desired.

I don't know, let's analyze the facts. Do they emit carbon and participate to the destruction of civilization in 2150? Which one is a crime against humanity, staying in cold countries or moving those populations?

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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This is an idiotic response at best. Are you honestly trying to say that the variations are natural? We have thousand upon thousands of years of climate details in ice cores, and while there is natural variation, the last 100 years vary more than anything else we can find in history. Here is an unbiased visual representation of all the temperature data we have from the last 20,000 years or so. Notice how the temperat…

You realize an infographic involves opinion right? What data to use, what scale, etc. You can't just present one graph and say you win... Both sides could find a graph or 3.

The data is all temperature records, and the scale shows every recorded variation. What about that is opinion??

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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This is an idiotic response at best. Are you honestly trying to say that the variations are natural? We have thousand upon thousands of years of climate details in ice cores, and while there is natural variation, the last 100 years vary more than anything else we can find in history. Here is an unbiased visual representation of all the temperature data we have from the last 20,000 years or so. Notice how the temperat…

You realize an infographic involves opinion right? What data to use, what scale, etc. You can't just present one graph and say you win... Both sides could find a graph or 3.

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Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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Slight tangent, but how does one with SWE/product skills get involved in climate work? There seems to be some research every other day indicating how disastrous global warming is going to be, but a dearth of jobs outside of solar installation or academia.

Find a way to hack Bitcoin and make it worthless.

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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> People (well, climate science researchers) have been saying that the changes are decades ahead of us, even now, but that we need to take action now and in the past to prevent these changes. Climate researchers have _not_ been implying that the bad effects are way out in the 21st century: they've made hundreds of testable predictions that catastrophe was at hand in the 80s, 90s, and aughts. We were going to see the…

Source on the ozone hole? Last I heard that was actually shrinking dramatically as a direct result of the CRC ban.

Yeah, AFAIK ozone hole predictions made sense, they were actually acted upon, and by doing so we actually fixed the problem.

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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This is an idiotic response at best. Are you honestly trying to say that the variations are natural? We have thousand upon thousands of years of climate details in ice cores, and while there is natural variation, the last 100 years vary more than anything else we can find in history. Here is an unbiased visual representation of all the temperature data we have from the last 20,000 years or so. Notice how the temperat…

You realize an infographic involves opinion right? What data to use, what scale, etc. You can't just present one graph and say you win... Both sides could find a graph or 3.

This is not an infographic, it's a plot of data with some humour sprinkled on top.

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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Which hipsters with Ruby and Node will burn away.

I hope you are being sarcastic.

He's not. Inefficient code multiplied by millions of users = quite a lot of coal being wasted.

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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Make the Linux kernel more efficient, save a bazillion CPU cycles in datacenters all over the world.

Which hipsters with Ruby and Node will burn away.

Node and Ruby: The beef and pork of technology.

Re: NASA Scientists Suggest We’ve Been Underestimating Sea Level Rise

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People (well, climate science researchers) have been saying that the changes are decades ahead of us, even now, but that we need to take action now and in the past to prevent these changes. Given the general staidness of the actual research, I think we need to worry a lot more about where climate science has underestimated the change than where they've overestimated it. The loss function will be brutal on that side.

> People (well, climate science researchers) have been saying that the changes are decades ahead of us, even now, but that we need to take action now and in the past to prevent these changes. Climate researchers have _not_ been implying that the bad effects are way out in the 21st century: they've made hundreds of testable predictions that catastrophe was at hand in the 80s, 90s, and aughts. We were going to see the…

> the end of arctic ice

nitpick: it is actually antarctic ice we need to worry about. Arctic ice (except on Greenland) is floating and so it is already displacing its weight in water.

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