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Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBma82g3Uag Young Steve warned us about the risk of having "toner heads" running tech monopolies. So weird that it was Jobs himself who picked this guy to be his successor just as they were becoming the biggest corporation in the world.

And Microsoft is now being run by a techie product guy.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Microsoft is innovative because you can now purchase a dedicated hardware peripheral for some software feature the touchscreen was designed to replace. Let's completely forget that Microsoft 'upgrades' your OS without your permission, spies on you, embeds ads into the Start Menu, and their OEMs like Lenovo will listen in on everything you do at the hardware level. In my opinion, these are actual reasons a company sho…

Do you honestly believe that the current macbook (note the 12" not the new pro) will not wanes in performance in the next 4 years as we have historically seen with the macbook air?

I ask because while my macbook air coming up to 3 years and feels almost like a brand new machine - the current 12" is actually slower than my air. Can i really expect that to have 4 years of solid performance updates on the macbook?

In that case should i expect my air to last me the next 4 years and do just well for a solid 8 years of great performance?

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Is it bravery when you have no other choice? Microsoft is trying to "make the PC great again" because everything else they tried has failed. If the "Windows workstation" (oxymoron alert, I know, but it is the best way to think about PC vs smart devices) goes down, Microsoft goes down.

Compared to this amount of existential dependency, Apple continuing the Mac line is more like when Microsoft was still continuing their Flight Simulator despite already chasing much bigger prey in computer entertainment with the Xbox division.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBma82g3Uag Young Steve warned us about the risk of having "toner heads" running tech monopolies. So weird that it was Jobs himself who picked this guy to be his successor just as they were becoming the biggest corporation in the world.

IMHO, Apple removing headphone jack and legacy ports is exactly the kind of things that opposite of having "toner heads" running the company. If "toner heads" are really running Apple they will be scared taking the risk and moving forward because they know it will hurt sales. If "toner heads" are really running Apple they will not take the risks of creating a new interaction model with unproven reception among customers.

I love Apple for this and I am buying the new Macbook Pro tomorrow. :)

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Well, okay, I admit. That they finally decided to build own hardware IS brave (it's very expensive) and I think they will have success if they find consumers who need it. The Surface line still lacks streamlined designs, the products feel disconnected from each other. The only thing that connects them is Windows 10 and that's also their weakness at the same time. So much Microsoft wants me to love it, I just don't. Now that Microsoft build their own hardware, they should start re-thinking their software business. Office? Ugh.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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post #33

Is it bravery when you have no other choice? Microsoft is trying to "make the PC great again" because everything else they tried has failed. If the "Windows workstation" (oxymoron alert, I know, but it is the best way to think about PC vs smart devices) goes down, Microsoft goes down. Compared to this amount of existential dependency, Apple continuing the Mac line is more like when Microsoft was still continuing thei…

> Is it bravery when you have no other choice?

If you're a student of - particularly - the last 50 years of tech industry history, then you understand there is always another choice: established tech companies have frequently chosen to stubbornly die off tightly clinging to their own past, rather than attempt something else. Microsoft was previously well on its way to that land of eroded or dead tech giants.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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I wonder how much propaganda do we read every day ? Tip: A lot.

I think that almost every piece of information which is not pure art or mathematical formulas - is some sort of propaganda..

Meaning someone somewhere is pushing his own agenda, directly or indirectly.

It is strategically wise for Apple competitors to put out all kinds of negative articles right now.

Apple does something unpopular - use that as a lever to swing the opinion - that's when some customers fall into your own nets.

After all, competition is not messiah - they desperately want to push their own products and inflict as much damage as possible to the top dog, which happens to be Apple right now..

I don't know about this particular article, but I'm just saying - I've seen so much negativity and wining about the MacBook Pros - that the "pro" people are left behind, there's no ESC key and so on - I'm really curious to actually try it for myself..

What if I like it ? Is that a strategy too ?

I find it harder and harder to believe anything on the Internet now, because it's all twisted and bended and distorted.. It's a war out there and the battlefield is our minds.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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They're working themselves there, it still feels like parts of Microsoft haven't caught up. Windows 10 comes to mind, and other areas that still seem painfully behind the times. It would be nice if Microsoft made some Windows Components that are open sourced out of the box, like full disk encryption software. I've personally moved to Linux for over a year now because it meets all my needs without getting in my way. L…

Is Microsoft even trying to fix updating? IMO there is no problem with updating in it self, I update Arch everyday. The way Windows takes so long to install updates AND the way the PC becomes unusable for that time are both horrible.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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The word "brave" still feels laughable in the corporate context. At most, a company has calculated it wants to take a larger risk.

"Brave" probably makes sense in the context where a company is ready to literally bet it all on something they believe in when they're in a sustainable position.

Re: Microsoft is now a braver, more innovative company than Apple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Luckily the article does not say that the Surface Studio is in competition with the MacBook Pro. The author says that what Microsoft and Apple unveiled at their respective events heavily favoured Microsoft.

The author (along with many other articles) compares it to the iMac , though: > The Studio (...) is what the iMac should be by now — a truly innovative, ultra-thin, 28-inch touchscreen. That doesn't make any more sense to me. The iMac and MacBook Pro are both expensive, but they're "computers for the masses" - they're great machines for almost everyone. (Or in the case of the MacBook Pro dongles, they're equally frus…

> computers for the masses

At those prices, more like computers for the 1% - a niche almost as small as illustrators.

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