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Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by hota_mazi »

jmeller wrote: post #25

Apple built its PC business on the backs of creative professionals because they were among the few groups who thought Macs were worth more than $0.00, thanks to its superior experience with Adobe's creative suite when compared to Windows. Apple now has a dominant position in the PC market, not because they catered to creative professionals, but because they listened to their initial creative audience and focused on m…

> Apple now has a dominant position in the PC market

Mmmh... how so? Internationally, Apple has less than 5% market share compared to Windows PC. And that number appears to be destined to drop if the reactions to the new generation are any indication.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by boulos »

mojuba wrote: post #72
andr wrote: post #38

Given the Mac's history in the last few years, and the fact that it only accounts for 12% of Apple's revenue and 8% of shipped units, I see two scenarios: 1) Apple gets out of the Mac business in a few years - Apple is not the kind of company to wait patiently for its product lines to run into the ground. The only reason they really need the Mac is Xcode for all those iOS apps that need to be developed. I wouldn't be…

> The only reason they really need the Mac is Xcode for all those iOS apps that need to be developed. This is simply not true. MacOS is at the very least a companion OS that gets more and more tightly integrated with the iOS devices. App handover, now also copy/paste, etc etc. An iPhone without a Mac loses many of its advantages over Android. Let alone that there are no signs Apple is going to abandon the Mac busines…

The switch to x86 from PPC turned out to be such a ridiculous win in terms of overall performance and compatibility that the community's initial reaction (omg! Nooooo!) was defused.

Apple also did a good job with Rosetta, which they kept around for quite some time. You'll note that Intel has folks that have done binary translation of ARM in an attempt to grab some mobile market share. The same could be done on the x86 => ARM side.

But it only works if the result is fast enough. We're probably still not that close today, but what odds would you take on 5 years? If most of the software folks are writing on macs is for other Apple ARM-based products, it doesn't sound so crazy to emulate x86 for people doing "server" work.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by snoman »

woah wrote: post #145
snoman wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how to say this without sounding offensive, but that seems you're very finicky, have some extreme environmental/situational requirements or like you have a medical condition resulting in serious physical weakness. Your body will naturally fluctuate double that in a day without your knowing.

Real men have huge computers

I honestly don't want to come off like that, but if 2 vs 4 lbs is someone's primary concern then it sounds like a great laptop.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by redial »

Mithaldu wrote: post #3

To be honest that zoolander phone is utterly excellent and if it were a real thing i would buy it in a heartbeat. If only so i have a phone i can use for phone calls where i don't need to worry about the battery running out, and which i can stuff into any pocket on my body.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if that Zoolander phone were real, the battery on it might not even last a day.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by jmeller »

hota_mazi wrote: post #151
jmeller wrote: post #25

Apple built its PC business on the backs of creative professionals because they were among the few groups who thought Macs were worth more than $0.00, thanks to its superior experience with Adobe's creative suite when compared to Windows. Apple now has a dominant position in the PC market, not because they catered to creative professionals, but because they listened to their initial creative audience and focused on m…

> Apple now has a dominant position in the PC market Mmmh... how so? Internationally, Apple has less than 5% market share compared to Windows PC. And that number appears to be destined to drop if the reactions to the new generation are any indication.

From that 5% market share they capture approximately 45% of the profits.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.engadget.com/amp/2013/04/17...

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by hota_mazi »

jmeller wrote: post #155
hota_mazi wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple now has a dominant position in the PC market Mmmh... how so? Internationally, Apple has less than 5% market share compared to Windows PC. And that number appears to be destined to drop if the reactions to the new generation are any indication.

From that 5% market share they capture approximately 45% of the profits. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.engadget.com/amp/2013/04/17...

That number is nonsense. If you follow the source, it comes from Dediu, who's a well known Apple apologist, and if you read his own article, there's no substance to it.

I'd love it if we could find actual, objective numbers.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by neotek »

I'm looking forward to seeing what John Gruber over at Daring Fireball will have to say about all this, since his perspective tends to lean heavily toward giving Apple the benefit of the doubt and all I've seen so far is relentless negativity about the new MacBook Pro lineup.

Personally, I'm extremely disappointed - I've been desperately holding off buying a new MacBook Pro to replace the aging mid-2012 non-retina model I'm still using, but what would I really be upgrading for now? I already have 16gb of RAM and a big SSD, sure I don't have a Touch Bar but I don't give a shit about it anyway. The only thing I truly need is a retina screen and for that I could just buy a second-hand MBP for substantially less money, and I wouldn't need to buy a thousand dongles.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by redial »

sjtgraham wrote: post #62
davedunkin wrote: post #16

Car companies don't sell their race cars.

Yes they do. Homogolation rules mean they have to do exactly that.

But the cars on those competitions are not truly race cars, at least not in the way a normal person would imagine a race car. In fact, homologations rules are in place to prevent true race cars from competing.

F1 and LMP race cars are not sold. Not even FE cars are sold.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by pjmlp »

petersphilo wrote: post #90

Hello All, i am the OP of: https://petersphilo.org/#post-71 Just wanted to add a couple of things: Pro hardware can exist and has existed at Apple for most of its existence, please look back at the post and comments for evidence.. My point was not that Apple should choose between 'pro' hardware and consumer/boutique hardware, in fact, Apple has a long tradition of keeping both happy.. Maybe Apple really isn't interes…

Developers on Mac were always using the same computers as everyone else.

I don't remember having a Mac Classic Pro or a LC Pro and so forth.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by Kudos »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #135
toyg wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> back-ordered by 4-5 weeks Lol, they were 4 weeks "back ordered" the minute they went on sale. It's not strange Apple keeps pulling this stunt (after all, they save on production costs by not actually manufacturing anything until orders come in), but it's really baffling how people keep pointing at it as a sign of success. Even the most unpopular car manufacturer will make you wait a month for a car.

I know a few people who preordered the iPhone 7 the minute it was available online. By the morning, it was up to a week (or more depending on the model). It's not an artificial shortage if they really are out. Do you really think a factory can churn out the millions of phones needed in just a few months?

Except the parent commenter meant literally the minute, not later that day. Only the base 13" model was available to ship quickly, the rest were launched with a 4-5 week delay.
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