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Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by petersphilo »

Hello All, i am the OP of: https://petersphilo.org/#post-71

Just wanted to add a couple of things: Pro hardware can exist and has existed at Apple for most of its existence, please look back at the post and comments for evidence..

My point was not that Apple should choose between 'pro' hardware and consumer/boutique hardware, in fact, Apple has a long tradition of keeping both happy..

Maybe Apple really isn't interested in the Mac any more, or even in developers. But who makes the apps, the games, etc..

Why not keep power users, keep their 'street cred' as the 'creative platform' and make a little (a lot, actually) scratch on the side...

Old geezer cries out: Can't we all just get along?

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by nodamage »

MikeKusold wrote: post #49
uptown wrote: post #14

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> "models now are 16gb of ram only (can someone explain this one?)" "Apple told me MBP maxes out at 16GB RAM because LPDDR3 limit is 16GB/chip; Apple uses it because of performance/energy ratio." https://twitter.com/DanFrakes/status/791754757404626944 So basically, it needed to be thin and light ... because, Apple ... which limits the size of the battery. And more RAM would consume more energy, requiring the device t…

If it was all about battery savings, then why not use DDR4? DDR4 is more power efficient [1] [1] http://www.memcon.com/pdfs/proceedings2013/track2/Designing_...

Your link compares DDR4 against DDR3, but you should be comparing DDR4 against LPDDR3.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by flukus »

jmeller wrote: post #64
flukus wrote: post #44

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And how are the dominant in that? They've got about 5% of the market share.

Great and valid point. My counter to that is that despite having only 5% of the market share they take home 45% of the profit. [1] They also continue to erode the marketshare of the current leaders even as the overall PC market shrinks. [2] [1] http://fortune.com/2013/04/16/pie-chart-of-the-day-apples-ov... [2] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/10/09/report-apple-widens-sh...

That doesn't make them dominant in any way. That's only a good thing for apple shareholders and bad for their customers.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by jrs95 »

IBM wrote: post #20

Best comment [1] I read a couple of days ago: >One thing constantly said to founders here is "don't let a vocal minority come in, tell you they love your product, and then turn into bullies that tell you how you should make said product. You never made it for them; they aren't your market. Don't get confused into thinking they are, just because they're loud." I think that about sums up the relationship between Apple…

I think developers aren't as upset about it as they may seem, it's more of a vocal minority within developers as a whole. There have already been threads on github+youtrack for adding touch bar support and features to Atom and IntelliJ, which should alleviate many issues you'd see from the lack of function keys imo.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by true_religion »

flukus wrote: post #44
jmeller wrote: post #40

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PC meaning Personal Computer market, not the Windows/IBM PC.

And how are the dominant in that? They've got about 5% of the market share.

True. Apple makes most if it's money from mobile devices and the app store.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by true_religion »

flukus wrote: post #44
jmeller wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PC meaning Personal Computer market, not the Windows/IBM PC.

And how are the dominant in that? They've got about 5% of the market share.

True. Apple makes most if it's money from mobile devices and the app store.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by flukus »

agumonkey wrote: post #41
jmeller wrote: post #25

Apple built its PC business on the backs of creative professionals because they were among the few groups who thought Macs were worth more than $0.00, thanks to its superior experience with Adobe's creative suite when compared to Windows. Apple now has a dominant position in the PC market, not because they catered to creative professionals, but because they listened to their initial creative audience and focused on m…

A lot of video shops also used Mac extensively for decades. It seems it wasn't only good marketing, they were alright for this profession. Saying this lightly, I was a kid in the 90s, but I do remember a lot of ads for large Mac stacks (towers, disks, video cards, etc). Tiny SGIs in a way.

> video shops

Presumably you mean video editing shops and not blockbusters? Our video shops were green screen terminals on DOS until... well until they ceased existence.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by smrtinsert »

initram wrote: post #85
sjtgraham wrote: post #53

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> What's the target demographic this new MBP is serving, though? Apple doesn't seem to know or care. I don't know who this MBP is for. Increasingly less people can justify an Apple macOS portable when an iOS device covers their requirements satisfactorily and it doesn't meet the needs of many professionals at all (present and anticipated needs for the machine's useful life). Apple is behaving as if they're a boutique…

> Apple doesn't seem to know or care. Oh nonsense! They showed like a dozen ways that the new touch pad alone makes using professional apps easier, faster, and generally better in their keynote. They are clearly thinking specifically of the professional market. Whether they hit their mark or not is up to the market to decide. The new computers are already back-ordered by 4-5 weeks, so clearly someone's ordering them.

The new touch pad looks ridiculous. It looks like novelty they're throwing out to placate the masses they get a real touch screen together behind the scenes.

I have absolutely 0 desire to use a tiny strip of touch above a perfectly good keyboard.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by blitzd »

sjtgraham wrote: post #67
dorfsmay wrote: post #55

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Interesting tidbit, the x260, which is the current version of what the x220 was, has a limit of... 16 GB memory.

I know. I'd most likely buy a Dell XPS.

You're probably better off with alienware for processing power and hardcore specs, unless you're doing CAD and need the certified drivers/hardware. Workstation model laptops have a huge markup, and gaming models often meet or beat their specs for less.

Re: Open Letter to Tim Cook

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Post by resist_futility »

treehau5 wrote: post #73
toufka wrote: post #32

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But they do sell to the public AMG, Motorsport, and TRD versions of their regular car lines even when they are not 'big sellers'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-AMG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Racing_Development just as Apple used to have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro

I don't know how to explain it -- but as an enthusiast, I sorely, sorely miss the S2000 and hope Honda comes out with something similar. It really feels like it lost something without it.

the new type R is probably the closest they'll make
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