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Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

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Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

#111

This seems like a good direction for our keyboards, but I don't understand why they don't let all keys be changed. Specifically, caps lock. Caps lock functionality is completely useless to me, and I suspect most people.

The current design does, we didn't on the first prototype because we were using an existing display. I've answered the detail of why (search for NRE).

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

#114

weird that they are using an Apple keyboard as the design base. That's a horrible keyboard. I'm still not convinced in these "dynamic" mini-screen keyboards. I almost never look at my keyboard anymore. At work, I have a WASD V2 87-Key[1] keyboard with blank keycaps (I use programmer's dvorak as my layout) and it's a delight to type in. [1]: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/

The Apple keyboard they reference is one of the classic Apple mechanical designs using high quality ALPS switches. It's...very different than modern Apple keyboards.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

#115
This site is totally devoid of technical details. Does anyone have any? What's the ppi on the keys? etc...

We're in Q4 so is there a more precise estimate of availability?

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

#117
Is it really that hard to remember keys for different applications that you need expensive displays on every key?

Learning to touchtype has been the most efficient use of my time ever.

As a mechanical keyboard user, chiclet non-mechanical keys just feel like garbage to me now. Like my laptop which I hate using only because of the keyboard. Absolutely no tactile feel at all. Just mushy little islands that my fingers can never find the center of. Absolutely horrible, it's ridiculous to me that all laptops seem to be going in that direction now.

I'm blaming Apple and it's victims for another form-over-function mess just as bad as the one-button mouse they also championed.

And after using the Ergodox fulltime now, I'm totally ruined for staggered layout standard keyboards. They feel so silly having to do ridiculous contortions with your fingers.

I'm not the target market I guess...

Ergodox FTW!

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

#119
post #94
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd that it is based on the standard Mac keyboard. If you're going to build a premium keyboard, then why not add mechanical keys, full size arrow keys and PgUp PgDn?

Given some of the comments in another recent thread ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12828398 ) your coworkers just might kill you for using a loud keyboard (but given the construction of an IBM Model M, you will probably be able to defend yourself with it).

Been carrying an MX blue keyboard from workplace to workplace.

Not a peep of complaint from a coworker yet.

Re: Sonder E-Ink Keyboard

#120
"With Sonder all your settings are saved automatically to the cloud."

Just what we need. Computer peripherals slaved to some external cloud server. You have a computer right there, able to store stuff. Run programs, even. You don't want to be tied to some here-today, gone-tomorrow service. Also, how do you know it isn't sending your keystrokes somewhere?

An API would make more sense. Programs which change the meaning of keys as you change mode should be able to change the keyboard. Think Blender, with 10 pages of keyboard cheat sheet.

Also, it says "Pre-order. Available Q4 2016." Well, it's Q4 2016. Is it shipping?

How do they send power over "braided fiber"? Whatever that is.

As a hardware device, it may be perfectly reasonable. Ship the product, get some popular programs with too many function keys to talk to it, get the price below $100, lose the ego trip over how cool you are, and dump the "cloud" thing.

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