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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by spoiler »

matzipan wrote: post #114
SwellJoe wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work well?" Funny story: My new-ish Dell laptop (Inspiron 15 7559 i7 with 4k touchscreen display; which I got at an absurdly low sales price from the Dell outlet store) does not reliably recover from sleep under Windows, but does under Linux (neither worked when I first got the laptop, but now only Windows fails and now only some of the time). That's a first, for me, as I have had a h…

Exactly! For example, Skylake support is not mature enough in Linux atm.

Skylake support isn't mature enough in Windows either, though.

However, I have two devices with a Skylake processor and neither have on Linux (as of recently, there were some minor ones with bad power states on cores). One of them dualboots Windows, and windows has some random weird issues with Skylake and BSODs randomly (but rarely). Sometimes it "wakes up" into BSOD.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by maratc »

pritambaral wrote: post #176
maratc wrote: post #149

Now I need a decent terminal (iTerm2-like quality) and a sane set of shortcuts (like a shortcut for "Copy" that doesn't stop processes in terminal) and I'd be all set...

I haven't looked myself, because my muscle memory has always been reliably aware of the context, but I don't think it would be that hard to find a good terminal emulator on Linux that can be configured to send SIGINT on something other than Ctrl-C and to use Ctrl-C itself for copying.

...until you open Vim and find out that Ctrl-V doesn't paste.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by amiga-workbench »

endgame wrote: post #139

> It has polish and care that the stereotypical raging neckbeards who espouse the mantra of Linux on the desktop are unable to appreciate (or, apparently, build), and it has to exist, even if merely as a counterpoint to all the ugliness. Please be nice :(. Some of those so-called "neckbeards" probably helped build the stack upon which things like elementaryOS rest.

This might just be /g/ but I always get a lot of flak for running Gnome 3, other users like to point out how much screen real estate it wastes with padding, however that's the main reason I'm using it.

I'm sick to death of XFCE and KDE setups with poor proportions and crazy alignment issues, I don't want an interface that is spatially hyper-compact, I want one that looks pleasant.

I mean Christ, you can't even vertically align elements in XFCE Panels, the whole thing has an aversion to aesthetics.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by maratc »

e12e wrote: post #190
maratc wrote: post #149

Now I need a decent terminal (iTerm2-like quality) and a sane set of shortcuts (like a shortcut for "Copy" that doesn't stop processes in terminal) and I'd be all set...

I've been pretty happy with the "sakura" terminal[s] - I don't really know iTerm2, though, so I'm not sure what "iTerm2-like quality" means, or if Sakura matches (or surpasses, for that matter) it. I'm not sure why you need a shortcut for copy, select copies by default on linux[x11] - middle-button pastes (or shift-insert). [s] http://www.pleyades.net/david/projects/sakura [x11] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/deb…

Select means working with a mouse? Thanks, but no thanks. Also, where would a middle button be on a trackpad?

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by pippy »

The quality of MacOS releases have been dropping since Snow Leopard. With Sierra, they dropped the accessibility setting for disabling scroll inertia. This is serious for someone who's getting RSI.

I use Elementary OS as a secondary OS, and I have to say I'm loving it more and more while the quality of MacOS continues to drop.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by maratc »

pritambaral wrote: post #174
CGamesPlay wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably the #1 reason why I still want to use mac OS every day. Emacs-style editing shortcuts and not having to press Ctrl-Shift-C to copy when I'm in my terminal window (alternatively, not having to remember to press Ctrl-Shift-C to copy but only when I'm in my terminal window).

As a long-time user of the terminal, I just don't get this complaint. I haven't had to "remember" to press the right keys, my muscle memory understands the context I'm in and simply takes care of it. Is this really that big a deal? I am genuinely curious.

On macOS, we don't need context because many shortcuts work the same everywhere. That might be a reason why our muscle memory hasn't been developed to "understand the context". Erasing all of your muscle memory and starting anew is a big deal, yes.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by exceptione »

matt4077 wrote: post #192
endgame wrote: post #139

> It has polish and care that the stereotypical raging neckbeards who espouse the mantra of Linux on the desktop are unable to appreciate (or, apparently, build), and it has to exist, even if merely as a counterpoint to all the ugliness. Please be nice :(. Some of those so-called "neckbeards" probably helped build the stack upon which things like elementaryOS rest.

Having an interest in design, I often feel a vibe of aggression towards the whole endeavor coming from some elements of OSS scene that I can see being equally infuriating or hurtful as "neckbeards". Among them are: - dismissal of design as a sort of thin veneer, somewhat fake, lipstick-on-good-bacon - design as a kludge aimed at amateurs, to the point of preferring the worse UI (all else being equal) so as to prove s…

I looked recently into elementaryOS in my quest for a good looking and functional linux distro, as it has been touted for being a good looking distro. It has too many UI problems to my liking. Look at this picture from the OP: http://taoofmac.com/media/AvRn9_F_JHGrGsCSlJwydak6BTc=/blog/... [edit: the one with caption "Zooming in on a NASA image I had handy"].

- There is a lack of contrast for the text in the left bar.

- The icons in the bottom bar are off: the colors are dull too (too low saturation is a common theme in elementaryOS).

- The size of the icons in the bottom bar is also off. They are way to big if you compare them to the main navigation (left bar). The visual hierarchy is not ok.

If you ask me: the best looking linux distro atm is manjaro kde.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by LukasSkywalker »

tylerflick wrote: post #163
jkelsey wrote: post #158

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But does it integrate well with Firefox or Chrome on Linux?

Honestly I haven't tried to set that up yet, I just assumed it wouldn't.

It does actually. You have to disable web browser code signature checking and start some program (Agile1pAgent.exe iirc) which then runs in the background. Full instructions: http://eduardosanchez.me/2015/01/25/1password-on-ubuntu-linu...

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by yellowapple »

mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

I use Google Hangouts on Linux all the time. No issues at all.

Sleep-on-lid-closing works reasonably well nowadays; I can't remember the last time I've run into a laptop which has issues on that front. However, I'd definitely do my research before buying a new laptop, especially if it's a very new one (in other words: you'll have better chances of power-management compatibility on laptops that are a bit more battle-tested).

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