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The Mac Platform Decline

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Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by tlow »

This is a poorly written article mainly complaining about the lack of an update to the Mac Pro product despite it's thesis that: > Apple, the MacBook Pro is not a pro-level computer. It’s simply not.

However, the article is indeed self-contradictory as it later goes on to say: > Who needs anything more than a MacBook Pro? The answer is a very small segment of high-demanding users.

So given that the main thesis that the Macbook Pro is not a professional machine is entirely unsupported, I argue that the Mac Platform Decline described in this article is not an accurate portrayal or reality.

Edit: Update The linked article even states the different thesis that the Mac _DESKTOP_ product line is doomed.

> Apple’s desktop Mac lineup is headed for the graveyard. Dead. Done. Over.[1]

[1] http://www.tedlandau.com/slantedviewpoint/index.php/archives...

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by jamisteven »

Its not just the mac but the entire product line. Unfortunately Jobs did not do a good job of finding a sufficient replacement prior to his health issues getting the best of him. - Round edges on the iphone6 - protruding lens on the iphone6 - removal of 3mm headphone jack on iphone7 - forcetouch keys on the new macbooks - video cam on the pro

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by f_allwein »

The main premise here is "Apple did not update its desktops in a while, so they don't care about this". I think this is inaccurate - according to http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/imac/ , they do plan to update them, but are still waiting for Intel to produce the necessary chips.

Also, I seem to remember reading pretty much the same thing before the Mac Pro was launched (which was apparently 1046 days ago...).

So yes, desktops are becoming less important, but no, I don't think Apple will drop them any time soon.

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by simonbarker87 »

I agree that the mac platform seems to have been neglected but Tim Cook isn't stupid, he knows that without developers the iPad isn't going to grow how he wants so I don't think this is the end of the Mac.

I think Tim Cook has ignored the Mac in favour of his favourite projects but in the meantime Schiller and Federighi have been making sure the Mac is in his periphery and fighting for resources.

I've chosen to view this update as the start of the uptick where we go back to regular updates (perhaps with a longer period than historically) and more exciting things to come.

I think the Mac Pro is over and the iMac will replace it with TB3 enabling external devices to take the workload of what Apple don't want to handle internally but other than that I hope we will see a strong line up in a couple of years and look back at this time as the trough.

That or Apple is over and I need to work out what computer I will use in 15 years as I can't stand Windows and Linux is a nightmare.

Also, I think the TouchBar looks pretty damn cool and I'll be ordering one as soon as I can.

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by IBM »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #5

I agree that the mac platform seems to have been neglected but Tim Cook isn't stupid, he knows that without developers the iPad isn't going to grow how he wants so I don't think this is the end of the Mac. I think Tim Cook has ignored the Mac in favour of his favourite projects but in the meantime Schiller and Federighi have been making sure the Mac is in his periphery and fighting for resources. I've chosen to view…

>I think Tim Cook has ignored the Mac in favour of his favourite projects but in the meantime Schiller and Federighi have been making sure the Mac is in his periphery and fighting for resources.

Ah yes you heard the latest episode of ATP as well. Maybe if Marco repeats it enough everyone will believe it, which is kind of funny since this story [1] is on the front page right now.

I basically feel like I'm being gaslighted after reading all these hot takes about Apple and Macs.

[1] http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161026-how-liars-create-th...

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by Fomite »

f_allwein wrote: post #4

The main premise here is "Apple did not update its desktops in a while, so they don't care about this". I think this is inaccurate - according to http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/imac/ , they do plan to update them, but are still waiting for Intel to produce the necessary chips. Also, I seem to remember reading pretty much the same thing before the Mac Pro was launched (which was apparently 1046 days ago...). So yes,…

As a datapoint, I'm a very long-time Mac User (started with an LC) and have used Macs heavily in scientific computing. A Mac Pro was my go-to machine for a very long time. But when my lab got a grant to buy some new workstations? The Mac Pro wasn't even on the list being considered.

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by casion »

tlow wrote: post #2

This is a poorly written article mainly complaining about the lack of an update to the Mac Pro product despite it's thesis that: > Apple, the MacBook Pro is not a pro-level computer. It’s simply not. However, the article is indeed self-contradictory as it later goes on to say: > Who needs anything more than a MacBook Pro? The answer is a very small segment of high-demanding users. So given that the main thesis that t…

It doesn't sound like a contradiction to me. A very small segment of users are 'pro-level' users.

Now yes, it isn't supported, but if you accept that as the reality then it is not contradictory.

Re: The Mac Platform Decline

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Post by jacquesm »

casion wrote: post #9
tlow wrote: post #2

This is a poorly written article mainly complaining about the lack of an update to the Mac Pro product despite it's thesis that: > Apple, the MacBook Pro is not a pro-level computer. It’s simply not. However, the article is indeed self-contradictory as it later goes on to say: > Who needs anything more than a MacBook Pro? The answer is a very small segment of high-demanding users. So given that the main thesis that t…

It doesn't sound like a contradiction to me. A very small segment of users are 'pro-level' users. Now yes, it isn't supported, but if you accept that as the reality then it is not contradictory.

Those pro-level users were what kept Apple alive during the dark years but now that greener pastures have been discovered they can easily be abandoned.
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