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Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

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Run your own!

I thought there is a high chance of getting blocked by spam filters if you're not using a reputable email host. Is this true at all?

False. Use a dedicated IP and don't send spam and you're fine (if you don't trust your users, run spamassassin in both directions).

Google will complain about deliveries if you don't have IPv6 records. Everything else: DKIM, SPF, etc is optional and helpful.

Simple greylisting works wonders to block incoming spam.

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

#62

I can highly recommend https://mailbox.org/en/ . Based in Germany, complying to German data privacy laws. The smallest package is 1€/month with 2 GB storage for e-mails, 3 aliases, POP3/IMAP, calendar, address book, tasks. There are also options for anonymous registration and payment. They also have encryption built in: you can do PGP encryption in the webinterface. It also shows you whether there is working transpor…

After having checked out their website, the one thing I don't like about them is how they say they'll reject spam before it reaches users' accounts (i.e. reach the spam folder or inbox). That sounds like a good thing in theory, but I've seen so many legitimate emails be marked as spam by aggressive spam systems that I fear losing legitimate emails if emails looking like spam are rejected and don't even reach the spam folder.

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

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If you care about your privacy, then you could consider ProtonMail as well.. Based in Switzerland and cares a lot about encryption and privacy. https://protonmail.com

I've tried them as well, and they are very good (and probably the right choice for extremely privacy-minded people), but they are - like most email providers Swiss - very expensive (while not offering the same amount of features that FastMail has, except for in the privacy department).

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

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I switched to FastMail several years ago. I had been hosting my email on Dreamhost, which was "just okay" in term of what they offered for email, but it was costing me about as much for shared hosting, XMPP, email, mysql, etc per year as FastMail was going to be just for email. So, like you, to me it felt expensive at the time. It took me a while to pull the trigger.

The things that made eventually got me to make the switch were:

- I realized email is basically a utility for me. So while I'm happy to spend $30/mo on cell phone, $60 on my home ISP, etc, it was kind of crazy to think I wouldn't spend $4/mo on email - FastMail had great reviews. Pretty much every time I did research to answer "is this really the best choice?" the answer was always yes - They seem to really care about IMAP as an idea. If you read through their blog, they do a lot of work to make sure IMAP is a great open standard for communication. That means their support for the protocol is always getting better, and they're improving OSS projects related to IMAP that they use.

Also they keep getting better. Aside from dropping XMPP support (which I can understand, though I have yet to find a suitable replacement for), their service offerings have gotten better since I signed up. Obviously email is email, but there are many little things that have received constant updates since I joined (better admin dashboard, better mail/contact/cal push support for iOS, more sensible billing options)

I could go on, but paying whatever I pay for FastMail service has definitely gone from "ehh do I really want to pay that much for email?" to me really liking supporting them as a company. If they were to increase prices a reasonable amount at some point, I probably wouldn't hesitate paying it.

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

#65
https://protonmail.com

Unlike Germany, Switzerland is not a U.S. ally and as such, it doesn’t have to comply with the NSA or other U.S. authority demands.

They just recently released standalone apps for iOS and Android and I believe they are working on desktop apps as well. The Web interface is fast and modern and its creators come from CERN, with deep respect for civil liberties online…

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

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Speaking of FastMail pricing, I don't understand why they wouldn't display their multi-year discounts anywhere on their page (if it's there, I can't find it). You have to have an account to be able to see the discounts. But for those who're interested, the discounts are the following:

The Basic account (normally $30 a year) can be purchased for three years at $80.

The Standard account (normally $50 a year) can be purchased for three years at $130.

The Professional account (normally $90 a year) can be purchased for three years at $230.

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

#67

I can highly recommend https://mailbox.org/en/ . Based in Germany, complying to German data privacy laws. The smallest package is 1€/month with 2 GB storage for e-mails, 3 aliases, POP3/IMAP, calendar, address book, tasks. There are also options for anonymous registration and payment. They also have encryption built in: you can do PGP encryption in the webinterface. It also shows you whether there is working transpor…

After having checked out their website, the one thing I don't like about them is how they say they'll reject spam before it reaches users' accounts (i.e. reach the spam folder or inbox). That sounds like a good thing in theory, but I've seen so many legitimate emails be marked as spam by aggressive spam systems that I fear losing legitimate emails if emails looking like spam are rejected and don't even reach the spam…

In my 1,5 years of usage I haven't encountered any incidents of missing mails. As I understand it they rely on greylisting which makes it infeasible for spammers.

There have been e-mails that took around 5 minutes to show up in my inbox, but this was mostly with "low-traffic-domains" and only for the first e-mail. Subsequent e-mails have been delivered instantly.

And: it's a really nice not to have to check one's spam folder every day for falsely marked legitimate mails. I am very happy with the automatic system.

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

#68

Try Rackspace Email - rackspace.com/email -- They have 25GB IMAP boxes for $2/mo and 24/7 support

They have a good reputation, but are not ideal if you only want a single mailbox. They have a five-account minimum.

I may be able to help you around that - shoot me an email.

Re: Ask HN: Good email host?

#69
post #30

I recently had this exact question. I finally decided on Pawnmail ( https://pawnmail.com/ ). It's free and you get 2 GB. I was worried whether it'd randomly shut down, so I emailed the creator, http://pastebin.com/raw/eWG8RQqk , and it looks like it'll be safe for a while. I have no idea whether using services like these is a good idea.

my worry with that wouldn't really be if it runs out of money, but what's the backend like? any redundancy/etc? Is it running out of an old Sparc 20 in a basement in Memphis?
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