Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app • Hacker News Board

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by azinman2 » Fri, Oct 28, 2016, 4:24 PM UTC

toxican wrote: post #88

Grue3 wrote: post #48

Never used Vine, and the videos from it never worked on my browser, but this is truly shocking. Like, Google Reader shutdown level shocking. Twitter is seriously clueless if they weren't able to make any use of such a popular service. Especially when Periscope is still running somehow. Though it's only a matter of time for that too now.

At this point Vine isn't really all that unique anymore. Facebook, instagram, snapchat and twitter all do what it did. I'm not very surprised by this at all.

They have video creation tools aimed at very specific length, and in doing so, have many videos within this format?

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by a3poify » Fri, Oct 28, 2016, 5:45 PM UTC

cunotaco wrote: post #78

corobo wrote: post #67

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Well to be honest I'm not a hive mind. When I said long form it's quite likely I was mistaken. I was under the impression YouTube started with 15 minute videos which is infinitely longer than 6 second clips or whatever vine is. "We're losing money on it and have to fire people from the main company we should probably not keep this thing alive and we dont want competitors to our main product now it does videos neither…

For a very very long time, YouTube wouldn't let you upload videos longer than 10 minutes.

And then for quite a while after that, you had to "unlock" the capability by uploading a few videos.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by sib » Fri, Oct 28, 2016, 5:49 PM UTC

xyzzy4 wrote: post #99

sib wrote: post #70

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That is the last possible thing we'd want. We already have contract law that covers the case where a customer has paid a provider to provide a service and the service provider stops without delivering. But, in the case of a free service, where there are no commitments, service providers should be free to stop providing services whenever they want.

So you think it should be legal for Facebook to decide to shut down, for example? Why does what the investors want matter more than what the users want?

Of course it should be legal for Facebook to shut down. Under what possible sense of human rights would it not be? Let's say that every last employee wanted to quit. Your proposal would require that the government would send the police over to prevent them from leaving and keep them monitoring the servers, etc.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by marshray » Fri, Oct 28, 2016, 6:10 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #132

marshray wrote: post #129

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> It astounds me that they couldn't focus in on that and make revenue from that reliable core of people that, like me, turn to Twitter before anywhere else when something is happening. Yes, Twitter's role in BLM and Arab spring were invaluable contributions to history, but how much did they really add to the bottom line? Even if it was a significant chunk, how much can random external events like that be relied on to…

> how much can random external events like that be relied on to provide recurring revenue in the future? That's the entire function of a newspaper, to transform random events into revenue via an engaged readership. It worked on me. In my case, BLM was what turned me into a never-miss-a-day Twitter user. There was a whole set of American voices I wasn't hearing through my normal sources. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

> That's the entire function of a newspaper

Exactly. And newspapers aren't doing so well on the internet.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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Post by wpietri » Sat, Oct 29, 2016, 2:06 PM UTC

marshray wrote: post #164

wpietri wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how much can random external events like that be relied on to provide recurring revenue in the future? That's the entire function of a newspaper, to transform random events into revenue via an engaged readership. It worked on me. In my case, BLM was what turned me into a never-miss-a-day Twitter user. There was a whole set of American voices I wasn't hearing through my normal sources. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

> That's the entire function of a newspaper Exactly. And newspapers aren't doing so well on the internet.

Traditional newspapers aren't. But news as a category is doing extremely well. People read much more of it now than they did 20 years ago, and what they get is much more tuned to their interests.

Twitter in many ways replaces the editorial selection function of a newspaper. It doesn't write the articles, but it does let people get a personally tuned stream of news. It also in some ways replaces the opinion page; commentary on current news is a major source of tweets.

So yeah, they can't be a newspaper. But they could be part of what comes after it.

Re: Vine will be discontinuing the mobile app

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