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https://www.tesla.com/solar For people like me who missed the solar roof.

Thanks! Can someone tell me what kind of architectural style does that house on the landing page represent?

That's a Modernist house. Flat cantilevered or overhanging roofs, large expanses of glass, right angles, no attics, rare basements. Concrete and engineered wood as preferred building materials.

It's called Modernist, but the style is nearly 100 years old.

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http://m.imgur.com/pgskG9q?r

This LNG ship got me wondering about a battery equivalent, charged up in a desert solar farm and shipped to a major city.

I get 16 Powerpacks per 40ft container 5100 containers per Panamax ship =81600 powerpacks per ship At 95kWh per pack = 7752MWh per ship ( based on powerpack v1)

So is that like two Hinckley C nuclear reactors worth of energy? How long would that last before having to go back for recharging? How long would it take to charge from a massive solar farm etc etc. so many questions but basically, is it remotely viable?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Falling branches don't cut buried power lines. This has everything to do with crappy infrastructure and nothing with love for trees.

Good luck finding someone willing to pay to have squillions of kilometres of above ground power lines buried. Sydney alone has 63,000 kilometres[1] of overhead power lines. One estimate puts the cost at $23.37 billion.[2] 1. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/29/1027926858231.html 2. https://www.ipart.nsw.gov.au/files/7b5531d9-cf65-4b1b-ae7b-9...

Some places even managed to get entire sewer systems buried. Granted, that happened on a very different level of urgency (you really want shit to flow, and it only flows downward), but it gives the appropriate perspective on any excuses that are based on the natural scale of infrastructure.

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Quick question for the people living in the US (Target customers of the Powerwall). What is your yearly power usage? On the website[0] they put for sizing 10kWh/day/BR. Which means 14600kWh/year for a 4 bedroom house. Here in Germany, working from home with a 4BR+office house, we are using 2550kWh/year. So, I suppose the Tesla sizing is to support a "peak day" usage, but still, I am surprised by the calculations. Thi…

The reason their calculations are so high is because in the US, typical houses are made as cheaply as possible, pretty much with paper, plastic and vastly insufficient insulation.

That may have changed in the recent years, but holds true for most residential properties built before 1980.

Re: Powerwall 2 and Integrated Solar

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X-post from reddit as it might get an answer here... http://m.imgur.com/pgskG9q?r This LNG ship got me wondering about a battery equivalent, charged up in a desert solar farm and shipped to a major city. I get 16 Powerpacks per 40ft container 5100 containers per Panamax ship =81600 powerpacks per ship At 95kWh per pack = 7752MWh per ship ( based on powerpack v1) So is that like two Hinckley C nuclear reactors worth o…

It's not "two Hinckley C nuclear reactors worth of energy" unless you confuse MW and MWh. 7752MWh per ship = two hours of Hinckley C.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time Elon presents something we have this coversation. I for one love listening to him talk compared to say the presenters at Apple and Microsofts recent event. He's genuine, doesn't feel like a salesman, talks about the reasoning and science behind it all in a great way.

The content of his presentation is always interesting. The delivery is always incredibly awkward and cringy.

I dont agree. Not cringy and awkward, but human and real. Who cares if he stutters and doesn't bring a polished salespitch. And he's nerdy for sure, but why have it any other way. Also the few jokes thay occur are typically funny as they are genuine and not silly jokes practiced before hand like Apple seems to like.

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Quick question for the people living in the US (Target customers of the Powerwall). What is your yearly power usage? On the website[0] they put for sizing 10kWh/day/BR. Which means 14600kWh/year for a 4 bedroom house. Here in Germany, working from home with a 4BR+office house, we are using 2550kWh/year. So, I suppose the Tesla sizing is to support a "peak day" usage, but still, I am surprised by the calculations. Thi…

I used a little over 12000k Wh/h over the last 12 months in a 4bed with 2 people in Texas. I also have 2 cats and 2 dogs, so I don't turn the AC down too much during the day.

date-elec-solar

10/15-567-503

11/15-329-312

12/15-290-373

1/16-270-493

2/16-218-535

3/16-269-543

4/16-352-509

5/16-510-383

6/16-994-492

7/16-1292-514

8/16-976-401

9/16-832-???

I changed the password on my router in September and didn't update my solar controller, so I don't have data for my September solar production, but it was probably around 500 (I produced 579 last September!).

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Quick question for the people living in the US (Target customers of the Powerwall). What is your yearly power usage? On the website[0] they put for sizing 10kWh/day/BR. Which means 14600kWh/year for a 4 bedroom house. Here in Germany, working from home with a 4BR+office house, we are using 2550kWh/year. So, I suppose the Tesla sizing is to support a "peak day" usage, but still, I am surprised by the calculations. Thi…

It's no wonder that the EU has half co2 emission per capita than US, given the inefficiencies in US power consumption, cars etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

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Quick question for the people living in the US (Target customers of the Powerwall). What is your yearly power usage? On the website[0] they put for sizing 10kWh/day/BR. Which means 14600kWh/year for a 4 bedroom house. Here in Germany, working from home with a 4BR+office house, we are using 2550kWh/year. So, I suppose the Tesla sizing is to support a "peak day" usage, but still, I am surprised by the calculations. Thi…

It probably depends on number of electric appliances.

If you live where you have electric heating/cooling, electric water boiler, electric stove/oven, you'll burn a lot of electricity. I burn 2500-3000kW/year in 1B apartment, but except heating/cooling - everything is electricity. If I had a gas stove and hot water I'd probably use less than 1/3 of that.

Also I'd guess that in US people do not built as well insulated buildings as in Europe, thus more power for heating/cooling

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post #118

Quick question for the people living in the US (Target customers of the Powerwall). What is your yearly power usage? On the website[0] they put for sizing 10kWh/day/BR. Which means 14600kWh/year for a 4 bedroom house. Here in Germany, working from home with a 4BR+office house, we are using 2550kWh/year. So, I suppose the Tesla sizing is to support a "peak day" usage, but still, I am surprised by the calculations. Thi…

It's really going to depend on the location in the US. When I was living in the southwest, my energy bill per month was ~$500 for a 4 bedroom house. A/C eats a lot of power. After moving to the northwest, my bill is around $80/mo.

To convert that to kWh, assuming a 10-15c/kWh rate, that would equate to 40,000-60,000 kWh per year in the SW and 6,400-9,600 kWh in the NE.

My figure for a 4 bed house in the UK is about 4,800 kWh per year.

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