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India's Billion Digital Identities

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Re: India's Billion Digital Identities

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The whole digitizing India is total and complete sham. Old Govt. offices atleast used to work, and had forms in local languages. Now, you need to have, - A scanner, to have all your documents scanned - A printer, to get a "printout" of the receipts - A computer with internet - A shit ton of patience, since the sites barely work. ... and of course, all the forms are now only in English (courtesy of your "nationalistic…

Counterpoint : My parents in India love the "digitizing India initiative" and do not share your opinion. My mom, who has knee surgery and difficulty walking , can summon a three wheeler on Jugnoo (uber is expensive for retirees), get groceries delivered etc. My dad can pay the bills online for water and electricity and check his bank account. Residential ownership records are digitized -- the bureaucracy is less powe…

The truth is somewhere in the middle. Government digital services are improving, but not at the pace that people may expect. Modi scrapped the practice of getting attested documents. Now you can self attest. There are also some interesting initiatives like digilocker[1] where the government documents are issued and stored based on Aadhar number. You can use that to submit documents to third parties directly from digilocker. People have opened bank accounts using Aadhar [2] within minutes.

There are some challenges to address. You still have to deal with the bureaucracy. E.g. I went to apply Aadhar for my wife at my local municipality office. The person who was distributing the application form asked me to come after 5 hours. The reason he gave was there is some meeting going on and he can't give the form to me until the meeting was over. I had to then involve my ward councilor and the chairman(mayor) to get the form. Now official gave a different reason. People are wasting the forms, so we are not distributing it. I thought you must be kidding me. Since I knew the elected officials I got these forms. Think about people who don't know important people in that office.

There are privacy concerns about Aadhar. Government need not collect biometric information for Aadhar. They should have made Aadhar similar to US social security number instead of collecting biometrics.

[1] https://digilocker.gov.in/ [2] https://twitter.com/deepakshenoy/status/744208624545763329

Re: India's Billion Digital Identities

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The whole digitizing India is total and complete sham. Old Govt. offices atleast used to work, and had forms in local languages. Now, you need to have, - A scanner, to have all your documents scanned - A printer, to get a "printout" of the receipts - A computer with internet - A shit ton of patience, since the sites barely work. ... and of course, all the forms are now only in English (courtesy of your "nationalistic…

Be the change you wish to see in the world. I'm apolitical.

Re: India's Billion Digital Identities

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post #2

The whole digitizing India is total and complete sham. Old Govt. offices atleast used to work, and had forms in local languages. Now, you need to have, - A scanner, to have all your documents scanned - A printer, to get a "printout" of the receipts - A computer with internet - A shit ton of patience, since the sites barely work. ... and of course, all the forms are now only in English (courtesy of your "nationalistic…

"Old Govt. offices atleast used to work, and had forms in local languages." I recently visited a Bangalore One office to get my Aadhar Card and my experience was one of convenience and pleasantness. 1) The forms were offered in English + Kannada. 2) The government workers who helped me out spoke English, Hindi, and Kannada. 3) To apply for the Aadhar card you didn't need to have anything scanned before you got there.…

Here's one that illustrates all my gripes,

https://parivahan.gov.in/parivahan/

Re: India's Billion Digital Identities

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The whole digitizing India is total and complete sham. Old Govt. offices atleast used to work, and had forms in local languages. Now, you need to have, - A scanner, to have all your documents scanned - A printer, to get a "printout" of the receipts - A computer with internet - A shit ton of patience, since the sites barely work. ... and of course, all the forms are now only in English (courtesy of your "nationalistic…

Be the change you wish to see in the world . I'm apolitical.

Change requires instruments; stupid catchy phrases don't do much in this world.

Re: India's Billion Digital Identities

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The whole digitizing India is total and complete sham. Old Govt. offices atleast used to work, and had forms in local languages. Now, you need to have, - A scanner, to have all your documents scanned - A printer, to get a "printout" of the receipts - A computer with internet - A shit ton of patience, since the sites barely work. ... and of course, all the forms are now only in English (courtesy of your "nationalistic…

Looks like you have been to aadhaar or any government related recently. They have made it easy and even their websites are quite faster.

Re: India's Billion Digital Identities

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Be the change you wish to see in the world . I'm apolitical.

Change requires instruments; stupid catchy phrases don't do much in this world.

And instruments are designed in iterations. An instrument to fix problems of a 1B large democracy will inevitably take some time to perfect.
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