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Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by actuallyalys »

gesman wrote: post #35

I made a fair attempt to work on MacBook Pro a year ago and was underwhelmed. Glitches aside, i felt like Apple is trying to convert me to their religion and the view of the world through Apple's glasses. After about 6 month of struggle and I am happy Pro Lenovo user. Having said that - Apple's smartphone offerings are superb and intuitive - exactly how it should be.

> felt like Apple is trying to convert me to their religion and the view of the world through Apple's glasses

I regularly use both macOS and Windows, and I don't see what you mean. Can you elaborate?

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by Roritharr »

hyperbovine wrote: post #51
ch4ch4 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that you still don't know which generation of processor the MBP has- I still see tons of deceptive Craigslist ads for MBPs that have a "2.0Ghz" processor, with no indication that it's a model from 2011, which is not at all comparable with a "2.0Ghz" processor from 2015.

What are you doing that you would even notice? Honest question. I can't recall a single instance where my 2012 rMBP slowed down due to its age. I mainly code, open tons of browser tabs, and listen to Spotify. Once I got a laptop with built-in SSD, everything just seemed to run at the speed of thought. That has not changed in four years or three operating systems.

Not everyone is a webdeveloper that has to link some pngs into some text file and MAYBE batch process some images. There's people with heavy workloads who notice. I really don't understand that attitude. "Because I don't need it, nobody would need it."

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by sliverstorm »

jimbokun wrote: post #18

"Here are the names Apple still uses for their laptops (and yes, these are the actual model names): 13-inch MacBook Pro with 2.0GHz Processor and 256GB Storage 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and Touch ID, 2.9 GHz Processor and 256GB Storage 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and Touch ID, 2.9GHz Processor and 512GB Storage The ThinkPad naming convention makes marketing easier, product differentiation simpler, and…

My first car was a 1986 Toyota MR2.

It was not a Beige Toyota Sports Car with 1.6L 4 cylinder gasoline engine and 5-speed manual transmission, 14" wheels, sunroof, and cassette player

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by EpicEng »

hyperbovine wrote: post #51
ch4ch4 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that you still don't know which generation of processor the MBP has- I still see tons of deceptive Craigslist ads for MBPs that have a "2.0Ghz" processor, with no indication that it's a model from 2011, which is not at all comparable with a "2.0Ghz" processor from 2015.

What are you doing that you would even notice? Honest question. I can't recall a single instance where my 2012 rMBP slowed down due to its age. I mainly code, open tons of browser tabs, and listen to Spotify. Once I got a laptop with built-in SSD, everything just seemed to run at the speed of thought. That has not changed in four years or three operating systems.

What kind of code? I live in C and C++. Processor speed matters when compiling. Of course it doesn't matter if you're writing e.g. js...

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by Matachines »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #55
Matachines wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I'm probably going to opt for a maxed out 2015 Macbook Pro. Yes, I know I'm paying for "old" hardware but I don't use VMs or compile anything heavy so it should last me a while. After selling my current one it should come out to about $1000 so not too bad. I'm just too invested in macOS in terms of apps, comfortableness, muscle memory, etc. I actually really like it as well.

> I'm just too invested in macOS in terms of apps, comfortableness, muscle memory, etc. I actually really like it as well. I never thought I'd compare new Apple hardware versus Thinkpads to a presidential election, but here we are.

Not sure what you mean? I really hate the new Macbooks but I do like macOS and I'm quite productive and happy with it.

Aside from a Hackintosh my only choice is a maxed out 2015 one that should last me about five years, if not more, with my current usage. It's not the choice I wanted to make but I'm not getting a $2000+ laptop without any ports I can use without adapters.

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

antirez wrote: post #38
gkop wrote: post #34

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Debian Testing (Stretch) with all its defaults, including its default desktop environment (Gnome 3).

I admit it's a few years at this point I don't use a Linux box as my desktop. Is it at a point where, to do all the obvious things like, use Skype, configure a printer, have a decent presentation or video editing software, update my system without hacking with the drivers, I can just have it? My fear is that I'll not be able to do everything I do with my Mac now. A solution could be to install Windows 10 in dual boot…

As for video editing software: this may sound strange, but I've seen several people, some of them VFX professionals, recommend Blender as a very good tool. (Perhaps it's not so surprising when you consider it's been used for editing several feature-length movies.)

For presentation software: personally I've completely switched to HTML5 based presentations (with reveal.js generated from markdown with pandoc), because even in 2016 I still see professionals at big conferences fail at playing back videos, or just plain hanging their Windows computers, when using PowerPoint. But when was the last time a video failed to play in your browser?

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by ymse »

criddell wrote: post #20
bchociej wrote: post #15

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Why not Linux?

Worse battery life. Really though, the applications you need should dictate the OS you use. If Linux works for you, by all means, use it.

I didn't downvote you, but even my Macbook friends were jealous of my 20+ hours on a Thinkpad x250 (9-cell).

The default power settings on Linux are pretty bad, though. Anyone with Linux on their laptop should create a boot service that runs this command:

    powertop --auto-tune
...and observe battery time increase by ~25%.

Re: Apple Sucks Now, Here’s a ThinkPad Buyer’s Guide

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Post by mst »

criddell wrote: post #11
rhizome wrote: post #7

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They didn't do that on Thinkpads, though.

It's the same company though. I have two Thinkpads (I'm typing on a T520 right now) and today I wouldn't buy another. Even if you want to give them a pass for unethical behavior, Lenovo still installs a lot of extra software that you don't really need. If you do buy a Thinkpad, I recommend reformatting the machine and doing a stock Windows install.

Personally, I've found the Thinkpad windows build to work better for me by far than a vanilla one (especially the projector stuff, which generally makes me a very happy bunny at conferences).

However, given there's a recovery partition and you don't wipe it while doing a stock install, "try both and see which you prefer" is clearly an option.

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