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Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by luxuryballs »

Delmania wrote: post #167
swissoak wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>her opponent represents the very real specter of the end of democracy and the closing of our free society Let me get this straight. Hillary intentionally subverted the democratic process by having the DNC work against Sanders. We have concrete evidence of her working with one of her PACs, which again is highly illegal and subverting our democratic process. She has shady and inappropriate meetings with people respons…

> And Trump is the one threatening our democracy? He has stated that if elected, he'll spend the first 100 days suing his accusers. He believes the press has too much freedom of speech. He has claimed the election is rigged against him, and has all but told his supporters to engage in vote suppression. He has said he will attempt to force all Muslims to register into a database. He has said he will ban all Muslims fr…

The reason he said it was 'rigged' is because of the overwhelming bias and frankly twilight-zone behavior of the media who are clearly donating to Clinton and wanting to maintain whatever special privileges they have under Obama.

We have a real problem with the press in this country... great example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsnMuaFjhE

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by mcphage »

swissoak wrote: post #147
danenania wrote: post #116

Ok, so Hillary Clinton was and continues to be a corrupt, deceitful, and self-interested operator. She's doubtlessly done all kinds of both borderline and outright illegal things throughout her career. No big surprise here. If elected, she will continue to work the highly imperfect system we've got in lots of shady and questionable ways. But please, let's get real. For all her numerous faults, her opponent represents…

>her opponent represents the very real specter of the end of democracy and the closing of our free society Let me get this straight. Hillary intentionally subverted the democratic process by having the DNC work against Sanders. We have concrete evidence of her working with one of her PACs, which again is highly illegal and subverting our democratic process. She has shady and inappropriate meetings with people respons…

> She has Obama, using tax payer money, campaigning for her - while not illegal, is pretty morally bankrupt in my opinion.

Is this your first election?

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by pfraze »

luxuryballs wrote: post #185
pfraze wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, stop. I don't like Hillary, but Trump says he'll contest a loss. That's what actual subversion of the process looks like. Everything you're bringing up is politics. > Hillary intentionally subverted the democratic process by having the DNC work against Sanders. Getting elected is a process of building key supporters, including within your own party. > We have concrete evidence of her working with one of her PACs…

He didn't say he would contest a loss, he said he wouldn't make a decision until the election actually took place. How anyone expects someone to predict the future is beyond me and the logic of the question shows that it was totally a trap so they could write sensational news headlines.

Please! Your interpretation of "I'll keep you in suspense" only makes sense if you strip the context. The question of concession was only asked because, he's been claiming the election is rigged. So that question of concession, translated to include the context, was,

"Ok Donald, are you really going to claim to the nation that the elections are rigged, and that you won't accept their results?"

And his, answer was, "We'll see." Which means, yes! He's standing by the claim. So don't equivocate Trump's position. It's not media sensationalism.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

freehunter wrote: post #199
danenania wrote: post #116

Ok, so Hillary Clinton was and continues to be a corrupt, deceitful, and self-interested operator. She's doubtlessly done all kinds of both borderline and outright illegal things throughout her career. No big surprise here. If elected, she will continue to work the highly imperfect system we've got in lots of shady and questionable ways. But please, let's get real. For all her numerous faults, her opponent represents…

Nothing Trump has said or done in any way improves the suitability of Clinton for president. If Trump did get elected, maybe it would shock the nation into actually caring about who they pick as their nominee?

> If Trump did get elected, maybe it would shock the nation into actually caring about who they pick as their nominee?

I've wondered about this but I don't think it would happen. Every single person but 3 that I know who is voting for Hillary or Trump is doing so with the upmost conviction that the candidate completely and entirely represents their values as belonging to the respective parties. It's as if the individual parties have become a religion.

And sure I know a few people who will vote for either party that represents their values and goals the most (I am one of them) but for every 1 person I know like that I know dozens of others who are as tied to their political party as their religion.

Yes this is all anecdotal. I have nothing else to go on. But now that he's the nominee I think more people than we might expect are going to fully support him.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by tylerwhipple »

abootstrapper wrote: post #177
CaptSpify wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it interesting that you think prosecuting someone for committing a crime would result in fascism, so your solution is to absolve her of the crimes she committed.

As far as we can tell, she has not committed any crimes. Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.

Just like Trump with the alleged sexual assaults right? No one brings those up....

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by StevenRayOrr »

koolba wrote: post #165
jonknee wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically it had never been closed in the first place, so if you want to be technical Chaffetz is still full of shit. https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/792065775658012677 https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/792063653919031296

> Technically it had never been closed in the first place, so if you want to be technical Chaffetz is still full of shit. I'll give you the point on being technically correct (and Chaffetz being full of...) but counter that by that logic she's been under FBI investigation this whole time.

As with many investigations. See, for example, the 9/11 investigation: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/25/911-fbi...

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by Delmania »

luxuryballs wrote: post #201
Delmania wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And Trump is the one threatening our democracy? He has stated that if elected, he'll spend the first 100 days suing his accusers. He believes the press has too much freedom of speech. He has claimed the election is rigged against him, and has all but told his supporters to engage in vote suppression. He has said he will attempt to force all Muslims to register into a database. He has said he will ban all Muslims fr…

The reason he said it was 'rigged' is because of the overwhelming bias and frankly twilight-zone behavior of the media who are clearly donating to Clinton and wanting to maintain whatever special privileges they have under Obama. We have a real problem with the press in this country... great example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsnMuaFjhE

Yes, I've seen that interview, where Gingrinch accused Kelley of being fascinated with sex and then attempted to use Bill Clinton's indiscretions as some sort of way to discredit Hillary. This is after he talked to his exwife about divorce while she was recovering from cancer and then later has an affair. At that point, it was clear the interview served no useful purpose.

Additionally, all major media publications have come out in support of Trump for the simple fact he has, in no way shape or form, demonstrated any leadership capabilities. He tweeted at 3 am for days following the first campaign about the Miss USA issue. How does demonstrate a steady hand and patience?

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

swissoak wrote: post #147
danenania wrote: post #116

Ok, so Hillary Clinton was and continues to be a corrupt, deceitful, and self-interested operator. She's doubtlessly done all kinds of both borderline and outright illegal things throughout her career. No big surprise here. If elected, she will continue to work the highly imperfect system we've got in lots of shady and questionable ways. But please, let's get real. For all her numerous faults, her opponent represents…

>her opponent represents the very real specter of the end of democracy and the closing of our free society Let me get this straight. Hillary intentionally subverted the democratic process by having the DNC work against Sanders. We have concrete evidence of her working with one of her PACs, which again is highly illegal and subverting our democratic process. She has shady and inappropriate meetings with people respons…

> She has Obama, using tax payer money, campaigning for her - while not illegal, is pretty morally bankrupt in my opinion.

This is not actually true. While he is forced to only use Airforce One when flying he is required by law to reimburse all costs related to campaigning for anyone. Typically though the president never pays for this and, instead, the candidate they are campaigning for foots the bill.

Every single president in the history of our democracy has done this. Every single one of them.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by swissoak »

pfraze wrote: post #203
luxuryballs wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn't say he would contest a loss, he said he wouldn't make a decision until the election actually took place. How anyone expects someone to predict the future is beyond me and the logic of the question shows that it was totally a trap so they could write sensational news headlines.

Please! Your interpretation of "I'll keep you in suspense" only makes sense if you strip the context. The question of concession was only asked because, he's been claiming the election is rigged. So that question of concession, translated to include the context, was, "Ok Donald, are you really going to claim to the nation that the elections are rigged, and that you won't accept their results?" And his, answer was, "W…

Obama called it rigged in 2008.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by Natsu »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #41

As much as I would like this to be true, I think that's a pretty biased interpretation of his letter. My reading would be this: "We found some new emails. They're relevant, but we don't know if they're important. We're looking into it." What I find interesting is the timing of this letter and, possibly, the fact that he wrote it at all . But we can't judge the significance of those without knowing if this is standard…

Eh, I dunno. A ton of things have turned up in the Podesta emails (as well as the FBI docs) that are seriously damaging. And then it turned out there are DKIM signatures, which are valid, which rebut the claims of 'tampering' some had floated.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/33821 "But if the objective is to connect emails-Benghazi and conflate the two in voters’ minds (which consultants feel is an imperative here), I’m not sure we know whether we can credibly do that"

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31077#efmAABABT Subject: Fwd: POTUS on HRC emails we need to clean this up - he has emails from her - they do not say state.gov

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23327 Reluctant to go there. Makes it seem like she consciously went to the home server for security reasons which would fall apart under scrutiny.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9545 Think we should hold emails to and from potus? That's the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but I seems like they will.

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-... "[Redacted] indicated he had been contacted by [Kennedy], Undersecretary of State, who had asked his assistance in altering the e-mail's classification in exchange for a 'quid pro quo,'" https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/24353#efmAAMABc... Note: Sources include Western intelligence, US intelligence and sources in the region. (Sounds like classified info...)

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6185 Someone here just got a tip that the State Department may be planning to release her Benghazi emails tomorrow or Monday. (Leaking info...)

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22335 Finally, just for humor value, it looks like Podesta got might have gotten hacked by using p@ssw0rd as his password.

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