I'm not a fan of the bar, but I'd really like mechanical keys with individual oled screens on the fn row.
New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore
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#332Bah, these entitled kids. I guess being old enough to remember keyboards before they had escape keys helps, but ␛ is just keyboard syntactic sugar for control left square bracket . Read your ASCII table! C-[ is even a quicker type avoiding RSIs from all those long pinky reaches. (More seriously, as much as it bothers me to retrain my pinky, most uses of the escape key would be many times better if the lefthand side o…
I had no idea you could use C-[ as ESC
I wonder how many vim users have tried using CTRL + [ for the first time today. Muscle memory being what it is I fully expect that nobody will swap over to this new and improved Apple way of pressing the Escape key.
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#333All softwares, including wim, will come with a plugin (or a built in feature) to display a custom menu on it, including the equivalent of an escape key. And you can bet the first app to be developpped will be something to display the old Fx bar in the widget. I usually really dislike apple politics, being a linux boy myself, but I can see how this, while causing some issues, can be an interesting tool. You want peopl…
Between VMs, Chrome, maybe Chromium/Firefox/Safari it is easy to get to 16gb
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#334> The MacBook Pro had options with 2.4 gigahertz dual-core processors back in 2010. Anything new in 2016? Not really, well… nope.
I feel the OP's disappointment but oh my.. does he really do not understand that cpu's clock speed is not the main comparing factor between processors?
It's like saying he will not buy a car with 2.0L engine, because they were making such capacity engines 50years ago
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#335Yep, I'm another developer who rarely uses Escape or the F keys. I moved Ctrl to Caps Lock, and you can put Escape there too if you are a hardcore vim/emacs user. It's better on the hands and faster.
Second, my current laptop has 8GB ram and it is more than enough to edit text files. The only time it could potentially be a problem is when running VMs, but as it is I can run two or three at a time with 1GB a piece no sweat. Combined with the cloud and ssh I'm not sure that 16GB is a burden to many.
As an aside I used to work at a vfx company in the late 90's. We'd do simulations such as tornados that ate RAM for breakfast and would run on a full SGI Origin 3k across 16 CPUs. Guess how much ram it had and used? Yes, 16 GB. The idea that we have an Origin in our laps under 2kg would have impressed the younger me.
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#336My biggest complaint is that they increased the size of the touchpad. I HATE touchpads, as the cursor tends to shoot off into space when I accidentally touch it with the heel of my hand when typing. The last thing I want is a larger touchpad. If they're going to steal innovations from Thinkpads, I really wish they'd have taken the eraser nub instead. Back when I had a Thinkpad (running linux) as my work laptop, I wou…
I HATE touchpads, as the cursor tends to shoot off into
space when I accidentally touch it with the heel of my
hand when typing.
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#337I'm always amazed at how techies are so often unable to consider other people's points of view. You'd think I'd be used to it by now, but no.
If you don't like the new design, that's totally fine. I've seen a lot of people saying that. But when you say that the new design is bad for everybody, or bad for millions of people you haven't met, based solely on your own personal reasons, you've lost it.
I'm a developer. The only reason I'm not buying one of these is because what I currently have is just fine, and I don't feel like spending the money. The touch bar looks really cool. It might not end up being very useful, but I think I'd like to have it. If it's not useful, well, no big deal.
Function keys? Never use 'em. Escape key? Having it available as a touch button doesn't seem like a major problem. If it turns out to be, then I'll learn or configure some other shortcut for it and get on with my life.
Now, that's just me. Your opinion may differ, and that's fine. I just ask you to have the same attitude. It's silly to say that this machine "is not a laptop for developers." It's not a laptop for you, apparently, and for people with similar needs and opinions. But not all developers are you.
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe you could enlighten me to some of the possibilities. Besides a slider, I'm not really seeing much productivity enhancements that functions keys cannot do.
Why is everyone so upset about this? It is a dynamic part of the keyboard. I would be shocked if there was no option to set it "classic mode" for certain applications (or even universally if you wanted), which would have the ESC key and the function keys. Why the opposition? Having a dynamic part of a keyboard is pretty innovative, what are some of the possibilities, I am not 100% sure but I am sure that developers w…
For one: they aren't buttons. It's a touch screen. I like to be able to feel the buttons I'm using instead of have to look down at what I'm doing.
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#339I dislike this post intensely. The opinion comes across as uncharitable, as the author probably has not used this Macbook Pro yet. How can you (alexeysemeney) be so sure? I consider myself a developer, and I almost never use the Fn and ESC keys on my Mac. Everybody uses the computer differently, but I'm pretty sure this is not a deal-breaker for most. One could also argue that the touch bar might lead to innovative d…
hmm, looking at the comments -- am I the only who uses Fn + Arrow Keys for Page Up/Down and Home/End purposes? How can you not?
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#340Honest question: what's the alternative? I've got a 2013 rMBP 15 inch. What's my next machine? I'm not willing to regress on display (220 ppi or better), screen size, or battery life (8-9 hours real use). I might regress on quad core to dual core if everything else is perfect. EDIT: The XPS 15 gets more like 5-6 hours with the high res display by my understanding. The Surface Book has the right combination of resolut…
I would say for a machine that is only three years old, just wait? I mean, if it's working well for you now, why are you considering upgrading?
I'm sitting here on a 2008 Mac Pro, and was hoping to move to a mobile solution. But 16GB of RAM just isn't going to cut it for the VM's and what not a run. So I guess I'll just be running this into the ground.