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Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by british_india »

I call complete bullshit. From having watched shows like NCS, we know the amount of direct evidence it takes to establish something like who was buried somewhere.

Like the shroud of Turin this is just another example of wishful thinking. They found some random tomb that has survived and announced that it was the tomb of this fictional character Christ. No chain of custody for evidence, just the wishful thinking of somebody who wants it to be true, just like the entire resurrection theory. Complete and total hogwash.

If we were to say this is the burial site of Joseph the plumber, the proponents of this idea would have no evidence to argue otherwise.

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by gadders »

british_india wrote: post #21

I call complete bullshit. From having watched shows like NCS, we know the amount of direct evidence it takes to establish something like who was buried somewhere. Like the shroud of Turin this is just another example of wishful thinking. They found some random tomb that has survived and announced that it was the tomb of this fictional character Christ. No chain of custody for evidence, just the wishful thinking of so…

I'm an atheist, but I don't think Jesus was a fictional character.

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by PostOnce »

british_india wrote: post #21

I call complete bullshit. From having watched shows like NCS, we know the amount of direct evidence it takes to establish something like who was buried somewhere. Like the shroud of Turin this is just another example of wishful thinking. They found some random tomb that has survived and announced that it was the tomb of this fictional character Christ. No chain of custody for evidence, just the wishful thinking of so…

Aw shucks, you don't say?

and here we all were thinking they'd irrefutably proved Christianity.

there's still history to be learned and an interesting story to be told about life thousands of years ago regardless of its lack of real supernatural content.

in other news Apple didn't revolutionize everything again with the touch bar, welcome to life :p

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by lostlogin »

british_india wrote: post #21

I call complete bullshit. From having watched shows like NCS, we know the amount of direct evidence it takes to establish something like who was buried somewhere. Like the shroud of Turin this is just another example of wishful thinking. They found some random tomb that has survived and announced that it was the tomb of this fictional character Christ. No chain of custody for evidence, just the wishful thinking of so…

Citing what TV drama as an example of how hard it is to prove something seems an unusual way to argue a point.

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by bitL »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #14

I've been to the tomb, once, when I was 13 ish. I remember an Orthodox priest inside the chamber, who was taking donations in exchange for candlesticks and talismans etc. I also remember him telling my father to leave the money on the tomb, next to his goods. My father, who is no more a Christian than I am was absolutely disgusted at that.

My experience was different while in Jerusalem - Christian churches were free to visit, synagogues required you to "donate" and mosques were immediately kicking you out.

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by [deleted] »

british_india wrote: post #21

I call complete bullshit. From having watched shows like NCS, we know the amount of direct evidence it takes to establish something like who was buried somewhere. Like the shroud of Turin this is just another example of wishful thinking. They found some random tomb that has survived and announced that it was the tomb of this fictional character Christ. No chain of custody for evidence, just the wishful thinking of so…

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Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by AvenueIngres »

virtualwhys wrote: post #10
antognini wrote: post #5

I had the privilege of visiting the Church of the Holy Sepulchre after attending an astronomy conference in Israel a year ago. My wife and I got there for a mass just a little before 6am so it wasn't very crowded. It was really an extraordinary experience. The Edicule had something of a steampunk feel to it, which I was not expecting. As the article mentions, it was built in the 1800s, but due to the Status Quo agree…

Spent the winter in Israel a couple of years ago. The old city in Jerusalem is awe inspiring. As for the Holy Sepulchre, as a non-Christian I found it pretty surreal. Clearly for the faithful it's a big deal, saw people outright crying coming out of the Sepulchre. The church itself is beautiful, powerful artwork from all of the sects (Ethiopian included). Particularly the fresco at the entrance, Christ being laid to…

>saw them shove an old woman deep in prayer

That's how it starts, then it escalates and finally you get crusaded against.

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by imaginenore »

andrewflnr wrote: post #4

When I saw the title, I thought maybe they'd found actual evidence about where Jesus was buried. No, it's the traditional birthplace, identified as such in AD 329, apparently. Edit: find->found

There's very little of the evidence he existed at all. No contemporary historian mentions him.

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by imaginenore »

gadders wrote: post #22
british_india wrote: post #21

I call complete bullshit. From having watched shows like NCS, we know the amount of direct evidence it takes to establish something like who was buried somewhere. Like the shroud of Turin this is just another example of wishful thinking. They found some random tomb that has survived and announced that it was the tomb of this fictional character Christ. No chain of custody for evidence, just the wishful thinking of so…

I'm an atheist, but I don't think Jesus was a fictional character.

Why? What evidence is there?

Re: Tomb venerated as burial place of Christ exposed for first time in centuries

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Post by tjic »

imaginenore wrote: post #28
andrewflnr wrote: post #4

When I saw the title, I thought maybe they'd found actual evidence about where Jesus was buried. No, it's the traditional birthplace, identified as such in AD 329, apparently. Edit: find->found

There's very little of the evidence he existed at all. No contemporary historian mentions him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Events_ge...

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