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Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by phito »

debaserab2 wrote: post #198
jedberg wrote: post #129

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Think of something you have to do every day that you don't like to do. Like flossing maybe? Some people really enjoy flossing. Some people don't. If there were a device I could put in my mouth and in 30 seconds everything were flossed, I would totally do that. But some people would think, man how can you do that and take all the enjoyment out of flossing? Sometimes when I'm working, I run to the fridge, grab whatever…

> Some people really enjoy flossing. Who does exactly? Food, to me, represents more than replenishment of nutrition. It represents meeting and understanding my coworkers. Learning more about my significant other or unwinding with this person to talk about our week. Even when it's not a social situation, for me it's a treat. I completed some work and now I should treat myself by revitalizing my body with a substance t…

It might be very important for your, but not for me. People have different taste.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by NumberCruncher »

Matachines wrote: post #85
djsumdog wrote: post #11

I'm really amazed by all the supporters on here. When I first heard about Soylent, I thought it was a terrible terrible idea. I mean, there's so much to food. It's not just eating it, it's all the flavours and ingredients and cooking with friends and loved ones and parties and such. I'm guessing most people on here use it as a supplement + regular food, but when I saw it originally, it seemed like it was intended to…

Every time Soylent is on HN people say this. Why don't people understand? It's so simple: Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need. It's not a) the ONLY food you can eat or b) supposed to replace all meals. I order a box of Soylent bottles every few weeks—they come in handy while working or for a quick breakfast or if I have little time and am hungry. I also cook meals with my girlfriend a few times a week…

>> Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need

Thanks god for creating apples and bananas and thanks the grocery stores for selling them all the year round. And thanks the Germans for putting a bakery on every corner.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by kazagistar »

alphanumeric0 wrote: post #168

There is also the question of bioavailability, which applies to drug as well as vitamin intake. Just because Soylent claims to give you all of these vitamins at once, that does not mean your body is actually adsorbing them all at once. You need a varied diet. You can't just eat one thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioavailability#Factors_influe...

They specifically mention bio-availability in their promotional material, for what its worth.

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by tomp »

fintechie wrote: post #340
_23sd wrote: post #310

I guess one great thing about Soylent threads is bringing all the urban myths around nutrition out into the open. People in this thread believe everything from "people on liquid diets don't poop!" to "if you put some berries in a blender and drink it, you're getting entirely different nutrition from eating the berries raw!" That second one is a bit of a strawman, but it shows how absurd claims that crushing or grindi…

> "if you put some berries in a blender and drink it, you're getting entirely different nutrition from eating the berries raw!" That second one is a bit of a strawman, but it shows how absurd claims that crushing or grinding foods ruins the nutrition sound. Well, for many foods this is 100% true. For instance, it's not the same eating raw garlic, than freshly smashed garlic ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allicin

But does that change the nutritional value of garlic (as opposed to changing just the taste)?

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Post by rosstex »

Itsdijital wrote: post #270
matthewwiese wrote: post #149

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Care to share your recipe?

https://diy.soylent.com/recipes/seans-lean-mass-gainer I use a different protein (NOW dutch choc isolate) and a different oil (smart balance). I also dropped the choline because it has a bad interaction with nicotine and I use an e-cig. When I went full soylent though I used it because I stopped using my e-cig during that time. I also added in 5g creatine. I should note that this is a mass building recipe and meant f…

>I use an e-cig

Why bother getting healthy in one aspect of your life if you're going to trash it in another?

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by beachstartup »

summarite wrote: post #220
Matachines wrote: post #85

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Every time Soylent is on HN people say this. Why don't people understand? It's so simple: Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need. It's not a) the ONLY food you can eat or b) supposed to replace all meals. I order a box of Soylent bottles every few weeks—they come in handy while working or for a quick breakfast or if I have little time and am hungry. I also cook meals with my girlfriend a few times a week…

That's probably just me but a lifestyle where you have no time to take a break (or meet friends/colleagues) and eat doesn't sound very healthy and not very desirable either. I understand the desire to optimise eating times and life overall, and sometimes there's a lot of work that seems important, but at the point where you drink a supplement rather than eat it seems there's no life left in what should be more than j…

don't worry, you're not alone. unfortunately i do have to skip meals occasionally but i always try to get something reasonable. eating an avocado with some seasoning, or other fruit like a banana, or some cheese, or some turkey slices, or a small bag of carrots, or hell even skipping a meal so i can eat a little more at dinner without blowing my calorie budget -- sounds infinitely more appetizing than drinking some lab-made slop that comes in a bottle. the possibilities are literally endless.

i've known since high school that there are some people out there that view eating as a nuisance but i didn't know there were so many that were in the tech industry. everyone i've ever known in tech loved eating/cooking/meals out/whatever (obviously i've been self-selecting my social group!)

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Post by t4nkd »

markdown wrote: post #275
hvidgaard wrote: post #258

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I used to do that as well when I was younger. Obviously not with Soylent, that wasn't around then. It works well for menial programming tasks where time is the limiting factor. Incidently, those are the problems where you can for the most part jump out and right back in without too much overhead. But when facing a hard problem, getting up and away from the computer, and cooking a meal always mean I'll solve the probl…

> I used to do that as well when I was younger. Obviously not with Soylent, that wasn't around then. Is Soylent ramen for rich people?

Oh, hey, this is my favorite so far. Can Soylent just be a shitty food choice, full stop? I think yes!

Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick

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Post by akvadrako »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #208
couchand wrote: post #147

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"If there were a device I could put in my mouth and in 30 seconds everything were flossed"... I think what you're looking for is dental floss.

Actually what you're looking for would be a waterflosser. The trick is not forcing yourself to use it, it's not getting addicted to it.

When I've looked into waterflossers the evidence wasn't strong that they actually work. Then again, neither is it for flossing at all.

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Post by wiredfool »

kctess5 wrote: post #175
PeCaN wrote: post #153

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…you'd rather eat random shit out of the ground that has been found to not kill you, than to eat something based on studying humans and their nutritional needs? I mean, I can't say I like soylent much but you're just stupid if that's the argument against it.

Hard to take an argument that includes the phrase "you're just stupid" seriously.

To be fair, it's a far far better argument than one that includes "your just stupid".

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Post by azernik »

enraged_camel wrote: post #263
lsc wrote: post #231

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that how it is marketed. My assertion is that the difference is largely marketing; that we don't know enough about nutrition to make a realistically complete long-term meal replacement, making them both "something you might drink sometimes instead of eating something, but something you wouldn't want to live off of long-term" Of course, I'm no doctor (but then, neither is Rob Rhinehart,) and it is possible research ha…

>>that how it is marketed. My assertion is that the difference is largely marketing Nope. Here is what the Muscle Milk website says in their FAQ - note the last sentence: Many people use MUSCLE MILK® Ready to Drink Shakes and Powders as a meal replacement or snack between meals. The ready-to-drink products are especially convenient to use as a meal replacement or snack when you are on-the-go. MUSCLE MILK® Ready to Dr…

That's exactly what lsc was saying - that Soylent in actuality fits those last two sentences, and that the only real difference between the two is the different emphases (and reckless overselling for Soylent).
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