I understand why people get Soylent, but I'm also wondering why people choose to trust a company to provide the powder for them instead of making it themselves. Not only would that save you quite a bit of money (Soylent is a pretty poor value proposition if you need to consume more than 2000 calories), but you would then personally control the freshness of the ingredients. There are so many recipes at diy.soylent.com…
Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
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Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you grind beans and rice into a powder, with other stuff, and cook them, do you think that that's the same as cooking whole beans and whole rice with the other stuff? The answer is no. It's not just about molecules.
Can you please expand on how they are different? A powdered bean or powdered rice contains the same macro and micronutrients. Perhaps the quality of the fiber would be different?
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wrong, it came from the book Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison in which "Soylent Green" is based off of. However, in the book the soylent is not made from people. The movie added that for....drama
I'm aware of the novel. You are missing the point a bit, aren’t you? It wasn't about the origin of the word. What does one make of a company which chooses to name its product after a darkly dystopian piece of fiction?
https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/201541809-Why-is-i...
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#284I ate bad chicken once and it made me really sick. Once! Here's a product that one should be skeptical of from the get go - it needs to prove itself as being "real food", and now it's made multiple people sick. It's like Chipotle, but I think worse. Doesn't help they named it after a horrifying product from a dystopian science fiction movie either.
Seriously: "Soylent"??? Somebody thought that would be a good name to market mystery food sludge? Just the link title made my WTF-ometer peg when I saw it. As Bullwinkle used to say: "I think I shall now be sick."
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#285I'm really amazed by all the supporters on here. When I first heard about Soylent, I thought it was a terrible terrible idea. I mean, there's so much to food. It's not just eating it, it's all the flavours and ingredients and cooking with friends and loved ones and parties and such. I'm guessing most people on here use it as a supplement + regular food, but when I saw it originally, it seemed like it was intended to…
Food is like sex. There are times for long love making session, times for a orgies in a well equipped dungeon, but there are also timea for a quick masturbation.
You can think soylent as the last.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#286Soylent made such a big deal of being a "tech company", and boasted about their overdesigned web infrastructure for a business that did two transactions a minute. What they didn't have is advanced technology on the production side. They write about "sending samples out" to external labs. It's not like they had an automated lab constantly sampling their production line and posting the results to the web. There are pro…
What Soylent should have built to be worth $100+ million is a way to make a food product tailored to a particular person or group of people that's based on automation and nutritional science.
Instead they seem to have a cobbled together amalgam that they don't really understand. If it hits 25% DV down the board and nobody dies then it's a job well done.
We know that different people have different dietary needs. The RDA system is by design generalized, not personalized. The RDA for iron varies between 8mg and 27mg [1] for adults but the DV is 18mg.
Meanwhile Soylent Powder 1.6 provides 5mg per serving [2] and calls that 25% (it's actually 27.78% Soylent, check your math). That's way too much for an adult male if you have any other sources of iron. And it may be way too little if you're a woman with no other sources of iron.
Not to mention that all sources of iron (and other nutrients) aren't absorbed equally. Iron from plants is absorbed half as well as iron from meat -- since Soylent is vegan, should we put a discount on the %DV it says it provides?
This isn't an easy problem to tackle, but building a system that understands nutritional science and adapts the product accordingly would actually be a worthwhile endeavor. It would also mean manufacturing and testing in-house, which Soylent doesn't currently do either. Build something worthwhile, not a slick website hooked up to an outsourced assembly line.
[1] https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/#h...
[2] http://files.soylent.com/pdf/soylent-nutrition-facts-1-6-en....
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#287The name "soylent" comes from Soylent Green, a 1973 sci fi film about overpopulation, where people survive by eating mass-produced plankton, which later turns out to be made out of old people. Naming a product "soylent" has always struck me as borderline sociopath. In this light, the company’s slogan "healthy, convenient, affordable food" is an outright mockery of its costumers.
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#288Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#289Soylent made such a big deal of being a "tech company", and boasted about their overdesigned web infrastructure for a business that did two transactions a minute. What they didn't have is advanced technology on the production side. They write about "sending samples out" to external labs. It's not like they had an automated lab constantly sampling their production line and posting the results to the web. There are pro…
One of the biggest flaws of the tech industry is the belief that being a tech expert is enough to disrupt other industries in which they don't have any expertise. Sometimes they get lucky and it works despite something like Uber's or Airbnb's total ignorance of the law. Sometimes it fails like with numerous cryptocurrency companies relearning why the finance industry has so many dang regulations. Seems like Soylent i…
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There's a niche that Soylent has been really helpful in, that pretty much everyone seems to have ignored so far (including Soylent-the-company, who I sent an email to regarding this and received back a form letter response that hadn't had all of its fields filled in). Backpacking, hiking, search and rescue, hunting, anything outdoors. I carry an unopened package of Soylent powder in my SAR pack and I've been glad I h…
How do you deal with the Nalgene getting funky once you're >1 days into a trip, or does the Soylent rinse out cleanly enough for it to not be a concern? I used to use Accelerade for a significant proportion of my calories when backpacking - mainly because I have trouble getting down enough solid food when I'm on the go - but switched to Accel gels because the drink mix would leave the bottle pretty nasty after the fi…
The older powder was a bit tougher to clean (but not difficult), the newer one is easier.
Mountain House probably got better since I last tried their stuff, but it still requires stopping, cooking, cleanup. I've got an MSR Windburner and I love it for what it is, but if I just want to put down a lot of miles for a quick trip the Soylent is king. I'm >this...of course, developing some serious intestinal discomfort 18 miles from the car would suck, so there's that.