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Re: MacBook Pro

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I hate to take away from the complaining in here but I actually think it looks pretty nice. I was pleasantly surprised with the interactions they demonstrated with the new ribbon display. I knew they were going to announce it and didn't think I'd care but I will walk away from the video with the feeling that I want one.

Yep. I bought a 13" (512GB, 16GB) the instant the Store would let me.

Maybe I don't qualify as a 'Pro', but I work in IT, I regularly have more things open than comfortably fit across the Cmd-Tab HUD, I reboot about once a month, I open close sleep move charge monitor on, off, edit podcasts, blaaaah blah, and I do all of that today on my mid-2011 MBA.

And it's fine. So fine I almost don't need to update, really, I just want to. Oh, and that screen. I want the screen. Oh and the battery life! Ten hours. Yo mamma!

So this thing, this is going to be a screaming powerhorse compared to what I'm using. The ports? I'll get used to it. I'd prefer someone push us towards The Future. Can I run six hundred VMs on it while I'm rendering the next Toy Story movie from seat 4A on my flight to Caracas? Nope! But I wonder, who is doing that?

This is a fine update that should last me until whatever they release in 2021. Which is ridiculous, when you think about it.

Re: MacBook Pro

#872
They said fn-keys are a 45-year-old tech we don't need anymore.

Next up: removing the screen, that's 70-year-old tech we don't need anymore either. Let's be brave!

Re: MacBook Pro

#873
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Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I am feeling the same way, except that I know what my next laptop will be. I am ordering a Surface Book. The weird screen thing looks terrible on this MBP. It will require me to look at my keyboard, not my screen. Meanwhile, the Surface Book gives me a touch screen (which is important to me because I create web software that is used on touch screens), the pen is great, the dial looks interesting, so I will probably b…

> It was developers who led the way to Apple's dominance in the notebook space, and I suspect it will be developers who lead the migration in the opposite way.

I don't think any serious developer wants to use Windows, but … maybe this will actually be the impetus for more folks to start using — and more importantly, start demanding — Linux.

Honestly, it makes life easier. No more dealing with the bits where GNU & BSD are gratuitously different. No more straitjacket: a good Linux WM lets you customise your workspace exactly for the way you work. No more throwing money down a hole in licensing fees.

It's pretty awesome.

Re: MacBook Pro

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post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

Are there any serious drawbacks to buying a 2013 MBP today?

Not really. I have a 13" 2012 MacBook Pro and it only shows it age when I try to play a game on it. For everything else it is fine.

Re: MacBook Pro

#875
So it's looking like Microsoft may now be offering highly competitive and innovative hardware, now has a *nix subsystem and prompt you can drop to, better gaming, larger software library and so on, and tons of clone manufacturers who will ape Microsoft and Apple's offerings at a discount, why should my next machine be an Apple one?

Arguing with myself, I'd say hardware quality is probably going to be better from Apple -- but damn that's a hefty Apple tax to pay (and it doesn't stop when you buy the machine).

I can also say, working in a mixed shop, that most people who got Surface Pros in the last couple of years are generally happy with them, but they have all kinds of weird bugs and can be kind of flaky. A few folks with Surface books report similar issues. So there's that.

But really, this was honestly kind of a disappointing showing a day after Microsoft pretty much reinvented creative computing.

Re: MacBook Pro

#876

My single biggest fear was that they would end the MagSafe and that has come to pass. 3 kids, 3 cats, 2 dogs, the MagSafe has saved my existing MacBook Pro so many times.

I can't believe they killed the MagSafe. This was an amazing innovation that has saved various laptops of mine over the years.

Re: MacBook Pro

#877

Unbelievably unimpressive compared to Microsoft's announcement yesterday, and 45 minutes into the keynote I still have no idea what the specs are. I don't need some stupid touch strip on my Mac, I need a touch screen. I haven't been this let down by product announcements ever as I have been this year with everything Apple's done. Now we get all our standard USB ports removed, very little by way of actual hardware imp…

I've never been a fan of touch screens on a computer, but this new macbook thing looks good.

I wasn't a fan of it about 3 years ago before I had to work with them daily at my job. Now when a user brings in a laptop that doesn't have a touchscreen I tend to smudge the display because touchscreens are so damn useful.

Re: MacBook Pro

#878

When I am at a desk, the lid is closed so both TouchID and touch-anything effectively don’t matter, including any display information. In fact, I am worried about applications gradually putting information only on the Touch Bar that cannot be found anywhere else. Perhaps they could have placed a TouchID button on the SIDE of the laptop (usable when open or closed). And hopefully the ENTIRE Touch Bar display is also a…

This is something I will never understand. Why would you reduce your work space by not extending the displays?

Re: MacBook Pro

#879
I cracked it! the laptop was designed for DJs! Now they can scratch and mix right from the laptop instead of putting it on a stand as if it was a super model..

Re: MacBook Pro

#880
post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

I have no idea with the idea of MagSafe, but on my Retina MacBook Pro (also early 2013), it's become extremely finicky. About 20% of the time, it just doesn't charge. I just have to connect and disconnect it a few times and eventually it works.

> it's become extremely finicky

Clean your connectors and the problem will be solved. Do you know what will be extremely finicky in a permanent way? Your Thunderbolt 3 port after it's had the power cable unceremoniously ripped out from it.

At least there are 4 of them, so when one breaks you'll be able to use one of the others.

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