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Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by valine »

ufmace wrote: post #31

Looks like apple is indeed going all-in on USB-C. What's interesting is: > People won’t even be able to physically connect their iPhones to Apple’s flagship laptops without a $25 new cord. I wonder if this means that Apple's going to switch the iPhone and iPad over to USB-C? It'd be a pain for everybody invested in Lightning ports, but Android phones seem to be slowly converging on it. It'd be pretty cool if USB-C be…

I was really hoping the iPhone 7 would ship with usb-c. But after watching Apple promote their lighting headphones I can't really see them switching to USB-c in the foreseeable future.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by brudgers »

kabdib wrote: post #24

It's pretty bad. We use YubiKeys a lot, and there are no ports for them. So sad. Also: Magsafe is great (it's saved my bacon a few times). Gone. ESC key, gone. Don't know about the keyboard yet, but everything I've read doesn't point to it being decent. Probably not buying this generation of MacBooks. Might just bite the bullet and finally go to Linux on some decent hardware. So, what's a decent laptop for running Li…

Dell Precision mobile workstations can be ordered online [in the US] with Linux. Three year NBD onsite warranty, beefy GPU, and more CPU than will probably fit in your wallet.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by manyxcxi »

flukus wrote: post #19
elchief wrote: post #14

I'm okay with the ports but 16 GB max RAM is a f-in joke. My mom's computer has 16 GB of RAM

What exactly are you and you're mum doing that necessitates more than 16GB?

40 browser tabs, two build daemons (gulp and gradle), three IntelliJ ultimate instances, 2 vagrant VMs, 3 more vagrant VMs I forgot to shut down, Spotify, Tomcat, and an IntelliJ debug Tomcat.

And that was just what my mom was running!

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by kobayashi »

Throughly enjoyed the Apple ecosystem for the past 13 years. Multiple AirPorts, Watch, iPhones, iPads, Macs. Never have I ever been so extremely disappointed with Apple. Actually, I'm not sure that I've ever before been rather disappointed Apple. I wasn't a fan of the Sierra release because I don't like using Siri but ultimately it didn't ruin then OS, it was just a new feature that I wouldn't use.

But now? The pricing is insane. The max at 16GB of RAM is a joke. I was looking to buy a MacBook to last me years of heavy power-use. Has Apple forgotten about me?

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by eridius »

kabdib wrote: post #24

It's pretty bad. We use YubiKeys a lot, and there are no ports for them. So sad. Also: Magsafe is great (it's saved my bacon a few times). Gone. ESC key, gone. Don't know about the keyboard yet, but everything I've read doesn't point to it being decent. Probably not buying this generation of MacBooks. Might just bite the bullet and finally go to Linux on some decent hardware. So, what's a decent laptop for running Li…

I really don't understand why everybody seems to think the Escape key is so important. I almost never hit mine, and since the Touch Bar has a virtual escape key, I don't really see the problem. The best I can figure is everybody complaining is a Vim user, but if you're a Vim user I don't know why you haven't already replaced the cumbersome Escape key with something easier, like binding `jk`, or binding Caps Lock to Control and then using Control-[.

So can you explain why everybody is so upset that they don't have a physical Escape key?

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by BigJono »

dlevine wrote: post #2

To be fair, if you need these ports, it is easy to get a hub that provides them: https://www.amazon.com/HyperDrive-Through-Charging-MacBook-C... And over the next several years, it is likely that people will switch to USB-C peripherals.

I'm completely out of the loop here. Why would peripheral makers choose USB-C over USB 3?

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by bane »

erwinkle wrote: post #11
eibrahim wrote: post #3

So disappointed. I had my wallet ready to order but this is no different than my current MBP. A half baked touch screen!!! Not worth the $3500 I was going to drop on a new MBP. I can't imagine going back to windows because I enjoy the terminal and vim but seriously considering it specially that now I can run bash on windows

I have been developing using the bash shell on Windows. It's got a couple quirks (like a couple second startup time on first startup, or docker issues) but it has performed exceptionally otherwise. I've primarily been doing nodejs development and installing random unix packages I need.

Out of curiosity have you thought about just running a linux server in a VM and sshing into it from the shell? It seems bizarre I know, but you get a "real" linux then, while still keeping a major OS for software compatibility with user apps.

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by chongli »

anuragsoni wrote: post #36
kabdib wrote: post #24

It's pretty bad. We use YubiKeys a lot, and there are no ports for them. So sad. Also: Magsafe is great (it's saved my bacon a few times). Gone. ESC key, gone. Don't know about the keyboard yet, but everything I've read doesn't point to it being decent. Probably not buying this generation of MacBooks. Might just bite the bullet and finally go to Linux on some decent hardware. So, what's a decent laptop for running Li…

I'll add my reply from another thread( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12807826 ): I have been using the Dell Developer Edition (Precision 5510) since April. There were a few hiccups because of some driver issues related to their USB-C dock (Correct me if i'm wrong, but I guess this problem was not limited to just their linux laptop?) Ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 things have been pretty smooth. I believe…

Have they fixed the coil whine[0] issues with them? From what I've seen, a lot of Dell laptops have this issue. I have really sensitive hearing and high-pitched sounds like this drive me crazy.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/3zau8b/coil_whine_pro...

Re: Apple’s new MacBook Pro kills off most of the ports you probably need

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Post by kabdib »

usaphp wrote: post #38
kabdib wrote: post #24

It's pretty bad. We use YubiKeys a lot, and there are no ports for them. So sad. Also: Magsafe is great (it's saved my bacon a few times). Gone. ESC key, gone. Don't know about the keyboard yet, but everything I've read doesn't point to it being decent. Probably not buying this generation of MacBooks. Might just bite the bullet and finally go to Linux on some decent hardware. So, what's a decent laptop for running Li…

Why is everyone keep saying that Esc key is gone, OS X allows you to customize that new touch bar, you can make the Esc button to always show on the same spot you had it before...

From a tactile point, not the same. I've rage-quit keyboards because of nerfed ESC keys before, so this one won't be the first.

I put a piece of double-sided sticky tape on my ESC key just to make me notice how often I hit it. When I'm editing, it's all the time.

The seeming last-minute addition of a remapping feature for ESC in OSX leads me to believe that the software people at Apple were railroaded by some hardware folks. Hard to believe that whole teams using Emacs / vim were ignored, but I've seen it happen before.

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