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Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing

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Re: Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing

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Funny how as billionaires get older, they start backing anti-aging and life-extension initiatives.

When you look at the equation of what you do with your life it starts to become more of an imperative to work on ending aging because if that is solved it gives you an infinite or at least much longer time to work on whatever else you want. I am now also starting to get pangs to work on climate damage mitigation because it won't be fun to live in a super hot or flooded world.

Life extension would really help environmental concerns. The problem with things like global warming, ocean acidification, biodiversity collapse, etc. is that the negative effects are usually too far in the future. But if you're actually going to be around that long, it suddenly becomes a matter of self-interest.

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Oh yay, now we can look forward to immortal rich folks. And the abolition of the retirement age.

I know you're making a joke, but a lot of people say this and it always irks me slightly. This narrative that if rich people fund X universally desirable thing, then only rich people will have X. This is literally never the case in the history of technology. Yes, the rich get it first, but it filters down to poor people really really quickly, especially in the modern age where costs fall at an insane pace.

Sorry, didn't mean to respond overly seriously to a lighthearted comment! Just wanted to get that in there.

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There was this interesting article which talks about some scientists suggesting an upper age limit: http://www.nature.com/news/human-age-limit-claim-sparks-deba...

There are lots of disagreements and debate about the science of extending the life span, so there is probably not going to be much fruitful results in the near future. For the short term, you could extend your life by: 1) having a low calorie diet, 2) avoiding foods with high glycemic index, 3) exercise, 4) good sleep

1- http://tpx.sagepub.com/content/37/1/47

2- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24472560

3- https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/press-releases/2012/Physi...

4- http://www.journalsleep.org/viewabstract.aspx?pid=27780

Re: Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd take that deal.

Even if we cure aging the median life expectancy might not surpass 1,000 – that is a long time to not get in a car accident, fall off a cliff, be struck by lightning, etc. But yeah, I'd take it too.

The estimated statistic I've heard is that if you eliminated all causes of death related to aging and age-related degeneration, the average life expectancy would be right around 1000.

Which, more importantly, means 930 or so more years to figure out the next solution after that. See also "longevity escape velocity", for how we can incrementally get to 1000 in the first place.

Re: Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing

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Press release from UNITY Biotechnology:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/unity-biotechnology-...

Which includes reference to the latest research they've published, on senescent cells in atherosclerosis pathology. This crowd likes timing their press and their research releases.

My comments:

------- The whispers of late have had it that UNITY Biotechnology was out raising a large round of venture funding, and their latest press release shows that this was indeed the case. The company, as you might recall, is arguably the more mainstream of the current batch of startups targeting the clearance of senescent cells as a rejuvenation therapy. The others include Oisin Biotechnologies, SIWA Therapeutics, and Everon Biosciences, all with different technical approaches to the challenge. UNITY Biotechnology is characterized by a set of high profile relationships with noted laboratories, venture groups, and big names in the field, and, based on the deals they are doing, appear to be focused on building a fairly standard drug development pipeline: repurposing of apoptosis-inducing drug candidates from the cancer research community to clear senescent cells, something that is being demonstrated with various drug classes by a range of research groups of late. Senescent cells are primed to apoptosis, so a nudge in that direction provided to all cells in the body will have little to no effect on normal cells, but tip a fair proportion of senescent cells into self-destruction. Thus the UNITY Biotechnology principals might be said to be following the standard playbook to build the profile of a hot new drug company chasing a hot new opportunity, and clearly they are doing it fairly well so far.

So this, I think, bodes very well for the next few years of rejuvenation research. It indicates that at least some of the biotechnology venture community understands the likely true size of the market for rejuvenation therapies, meaning every human being much over the age of 30. It also demonstrates that there is a lot of for-profit money out there for people with credible paths to therapies to treat the causes of aging. It remains frustrating, of course, that it is very challenging to raise sufficient non-profit funds to push existing research in progress to the point at which companies can launch. This is a problem throughout the medical research and development community, but it is especially pronounced when it comes to aging. The SENS view of damage repair, which has long incorporated senescent cell clearance, is an even tinier and harder sell within the aging research portfolio - but one has to hope that funding events like this will go some way to turn that around.

From the perspective of being an investor in Oisin Biotechnologies, I have to say that this large and very visible flag planted out there by the UNITY team is very welcome. The Oisin team should be able to write their own ticket for their next round of fundraising, given that the gene therapy technology they are working on has every appearance of being a superior option in comparison to the use of apoptosis-inducing drugs: more powerful, more configurable, and more adaptable. When you are competing in a new marketplace, there is no such thing as too much validation. The existence of well-regarded, well-funded competitors is just about the best sort of validation possible. Well funded competitors who put out peer-reviewed studies on a regular basis to show that the high-level approach you and they are both taking works really well is just icing on the cake. Everyone should have it so easy. So let the games commence! Competition always drives faster progress. Whether or not I had skin in this game, it would still be exciting news. The development of rejuvenation therapies is a game in which we all win together, when new treatments come to the clinic, or we all lose together, because that doesn't happen fast enough. We can and should all of us be cheering on all of the competitors in this race. The quality and availability of the outcome is all that really matters in the long term. Money comes and goes, but life and health is something to be taken much more seriously.

Now with all of that said, one interesting item to ponder in connection to this round of funding for UNITY is the degree to which it reflects the prospects for cancer therapies rather than the prospects for rejuvenation in the eyes of the funding organizations. In other words, am I being overly optimistic in reading this as a greater understanding of the potential for rejuvenation research in the eyes of the venture community? It might be the case that the portions of the venture community involved here understand the market for working cancer drugs pretty well, and consider that worth investing in, with the possibility of human rejuvenation as an added bonus, but not one that is valued appropriately in their minds. Consider that UNITY Biotechnology has partnered with a noted cancer therapeutics company, and that the use of drugs to inducing apoptosis is a fairly well established approach to building cancer treatments. That is in fact why there even exists a range of apoptosis-inducing drugs and drug candidates for those interested in building senescent cell clearance therapies to pick through. Further, the presence of large numbers of senescent cells does in fact drive cancer, and modulating their effects (or removing them) to temper cancer progress is a topic under exploration in the cancer research community. So a wager on a new vision, or a wager on the present market? It is something to think about. -------

Re: Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing

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post #23

There was this interesting article which talks about some scientists suggesting an upper age limit: http://www.nature.com/news/human-age-limit-claim-sparks-deba... There are lots of disagreements and debate about the science of extending the life span, so there is probably not going to be much fruitful results in the near future. For the short term, you could extend your life by: 1) having a low calorie diet, 2) avoi…

As far as I understand, this is just looking at demographic data, so probably if you do everything like exercise and diet right, and you have good genes, 115 is about the limit. It's basically saying that lifespan isn't going to continually drift upwards about that level with marginal improvements in living standards.

I don't see that we can get anything from that data which gives you clear answers about the potential for direct medical or pharmaceutical interventions to extend life.

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Funny how as billionaires get older, they start backing anti-aging and life-extension initiatives.

Billionaires are not immune to the terrifying realities of life and death, they're just more likely to delude themselves into thinking that like so many rules, they can beat that too. The result is, on the bright side, that sometimes they do some real good by funding research. The downside is that often they blow that money on extremely expensive snake oil.

But Kurzweil has been banging this drum for a long time. He has means but still isn't near being a billionaire. He just believes.

Re: Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing

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I would love to get involved with a company like this, however I am only a software engineer with no background in the biological sciences. Is there a feasible path that does not involve going back to school for many years? I am not afraid of learning new things or doing the hard work I'd need to do, I just feel like that route would be highly inefficient. I would really like to contribute towards meaningfully extend…

In the short term, get the highest-paying software engineering job you can, and donate a meaningful part of your income to charitable organizations working on anti-aging research such as SENS. (Check if your employer matches charitable donations, as well.) Much more efficient and effective than rethinking your entire career just so you can add one person's worth of time to such an effort. (That's not to say "don't wo…

And much appreciated your help is!

I'm in much the same boat. I have great admiration for those who have pulled off the mid-life career switch into biotechnology. There's one of those folk at the Buck Institute working on senescent cells with Judith Campisi of UNITY, in fact, transitioned over from a former entrepreneurial business career. He quit that, went back to school, and there he is, being a scientist and advancing the state of the art: http://www.buckinstitute.org/content/kevin-perrott

But for me, the math works out such that the road of greatest efficiency is to channel money into research funding via organizations like the SENS Research Foundation that I know are going to make good use of it, and have a great track record of making good use of past donations.

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