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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

overcast wrote: post #326

Ugh. I don't know what to do here. I've been waiting for Mac updates for ages, and this is what we get. My 2008 Mac Pro is maxed out on upgrades, and has been on the fritz lately. I can't go forever on an 8+ year old machine. Especially one that is no longer "officially supported" by Apple, and now requires 3rd party patches to install Sierra and its updates. Microsoft's Surface presentation yesterday was VERY tempti…

I'm in the same boat. I have an 8 year old Macbook Unibody. Maxed out RAM to 8GB (officially supports 6 GB but there was a way to utilize 8 GB), have replaced HDD with a 256 SSD, replaced the battery once (sadly now can't do so again, they don't make it), replaced power adapter twice. I was looking forward to this event, this is the first year I cannot upgrade to the latest OS X without hacking around. I am ready to buy. However this event was disappointing. I don't care for any of the new features and really that would not have mattered, but then the prices surprised me. So much more than I payed for what I'm using right now. Feeling a bit stuck here. I don't need a lot of power with the type of code I write but the new Macbook is too small and has only one port. I'm actually considering the model without the touch bar but that's only got two ports. Touch decision especially because I don't like what I see out in Windows land either and I can't use Linux as a client OS because I use apps that are only available for Windows and OS X. Damn...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Tistel »

I will bet $1.43 that Apple's next version of the iMAC will have a tilt bevel like the Cintiq art monitor and the new MS Studio computer. I think Wacom still claims to have better pressure resolution that the MS touch (no sure if true). I have a small cintiq that I enjoy. I feel a bit bad for Wacom, they seem to have attracted some mighty competitors. Maybe Cintiq/Wacom could try to partner with Apple. Have some sort of Wacom/iMac thing. Microsoft seems to have gotten some good leadership.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by xxxmaster »

I am not sure if I have to pay so much extra money for fancy bels and whistles that do not help me as a programmer. I was really hoping for performance boost rather than fancy touch screen that makes me watch the keyboard instead of touch typing.

What I saw from the presentation made my actually go back home and check what Windows announced yesterday, since I was quite disappointed (I actually found the presentation of the surface book more close to what I was hoping the next macbook pro should be).

I believe the only thing that continues to save Apple for consumers like most of the ppl around here is that it is Unix based.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by CN7R »

rayiner wrote: post #259
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Both Apple and Microsoft presentations were overwhelming for the size of their companies. However, the latter introduced a completely new product which seems innovative. Meanwhile, Apple just gave their MacBook Pros a touch bar, and basically neglected any demanded updates for their other product lines (e.g. MacBook Air).

And honestly, MBP is not the best purchase for specs. You can get a cheaper Dell XPS 15.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by pmontra »

josu wrote: post #704
wkirby wrote: post #427

What I wanted: - 7th generation Intel chips. Skylake (6th generation) is from August 2015. - A move to Nvidia GPUs - Retain the magsafe power adapter - At least one dedicated display-out port, preferably HDMI - 32GB RAM for the 15 inch base model - Support for the airpods using their new W1 chip What I'm mad they included: - Price increase for low value - Touch Bar does away with physical keys I use daily (most impor…

>32GB RAM Everybody asking for more RAM, what do you use it for? I have 8GB and they never seem to become a bottleneck.

The usual culprits are virtual machines, large images, video editing. A little less common: big data, large matrices, scientific computing in general.

I never hit 16 GB on my laptop (I even disabled swap) but I got close once with three browsers open (I segregate some web apps into different browsers), a few VMs, some other random application running. It made me think if it was time to buy the extra 16 GB I can fit into my laptop. I just checked, it's about $100.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by thijsvandien »

mi100hael wrote: post #442
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I was in the same boat about six months ago when I was fed up with instability in OS X. Time Machine backups getting corrupted, not waking from sleep, etc. I switched to a Dell M5510 running Linux and haven't looked back. Battery life isn't as good, but otherwise it's been great. Touch screen works fine, trackpad clicks a little heavy but works fine, all the standard ports and an included network dongle, Libre Office…

The most ridiculous thing about this laptop is that it comes with a Xeon CPU, yet no option for ECC RAM.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by toyg »

Analemma_ wrote: post #718
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

Without taking a side, can I just say that this entire thread is bringing a little tear of nostalgia to my eye? I love that even in 2016-- with all the new companies and platforms and wars, and desktops arguably being the least important battleground-- we can still have an old-fashioned bitter Mac-vs-PC argument thread once in a while, with all the swearing and name-calling, just like when I was on Slashdot in 2003.…

Meh, I don't think this is the same. Back then, the PC mainstream looked at Apple buyers like a rabble of fanboys who didn't know what they were buying. And indeed a lot of them were exactly that: artists, musicians and schoolteachers overpaying for hardware in order to get the superior MacOS experience.

Today, the mainstream in tech circles is a mob of disgruntled Apple buyers that Cupertino spent decades courting and accumulating with bold moves (like the MBA and the MBPR), who now don't see a reason to stick around. It's a bad trend for Apple.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by SysArchitect »

make3 wrote: post #692
wkirby wrote: post #427

What I wanted: - 7th generation Intel chips. Skylake (6th generation) is from August 2015. - A move to Nvidia GPUs - Retain the magsafe power adapter - At least one dedicated display-out port, preferably HDMI - 32GB RAM for the 15 inch base model - Support for the airpods using their new W1 chip What I'm mad they included: - Price increase for low value - Touch Bar does away with physical keys I use daily (most impor…

They used to have Nvidia gpus as an option (mine is, from 2014). Soo.. looks like they are staying away from Nvidia now

They tend to tick-tock between Nvidia and AMD. Although this update is once again an AMD (Mid 2015 is AMD as well).

My late 2013 was Nvidia.

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