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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by kgwgk »

duaneb wrote: post #31

They aren't buttons, it's a touch screen. Meaning: fuck blind people and touch typists.

how do blind people use current macbook pro laptops? (serious question).

Edit: at least there is an option to get actual function keys in the 13" model if they are required to use Voice Over and they cannot be reliable found on the touch bar... and the user won't really care about the screen size (I'm joking, I can think of many reasons why a blind person might want/need to use the 15" model).

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ynniv »

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by lostgame »

lostgame wrote: post #47

Unbelievably unimpressive compared to Microsoft's announcement yesterday, and 45 minutes into the keynote I still have no idea what the specs are. I don't need some stupid touch strip on my Mac, I need a touch screen. I haven't been this let down by product announcements ever as I have been this year with everything Apple's done. Now we get all our standard USB ports removed, very little by way of actual hardware imp…

Didn't think about the 'touch typing' thing others have mentioned...totally valid.

Furthermore, the lack of a Mac Pro update is just frickin' pathetic.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by dasmoth »

Does anyone else get the feeling that Apple are planning to kill desktops entirely? I went into this kind-of interested in the touch bar but thinking "how will they add it to external keyboards." Now, I don't think they ever will. The "pro workstation" sequence they showed during the live event is what they're aiming at: set your desk up so that the laptop us the keyboard and just add monitors (and perhaps external storage).

And you know, perhaps they're right. But may take me a while to accept.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by 0x0 »

revicon wrote: post #138
brian-armstrong wrote: post #20

Replacing hardware keys with a touchscreen on a laptop made for power users is a sign that Apple has lost touch with what made the MacBook Pro popular in the first place. I think they could have just upgraded to the newest CPU and put a new battery in and made everyone happy.

I think the thing that is being missed here is that Apple doesn't make much money off of "power users". They make money off people buying movies on itunes and subscribing to icloud for their photos. Everything Apple is building is aimed toward that market, emojis and all. If you feel that Apple isn't designing with you in mind it's probably because you've outgrown them. Time to look at alternatives.

They still need "power users" to build apps for iOS and macOS.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Someone »

makecheck wrote: post #78

When I am at a desk, the lid is closed so both TouchID and touch-anything effectively don’t matter, including any display information. In fact, I am worried about applications gradually putting information only on the Touch Bar that cannot be found anywhere else. Perhaps they could have placed a TouchID button on the SIDE of the laptop (usable when open or closed). And hopefully the ENTIRE Touch Bar display is also a…

That on-screen version would require a full-size touch screen, and eat into precious vertical screen space.

The naive implementation also would move the mouse whenever you touch the screen. I think that is loss of usefulness; now, one can select with the mouse, click a function, select with the mouse, etc. I expect there will be cases where this will be convenient (but, unfortunately, only when repeating the same function on each object. Also, power users currently can already do that by assigning a key combination to the function)

Also, I'm not claiming they did any, but what do you base "a lot of these changes show a lack of usability testing." on? My gut feeling also tells me this mostly is a gimmick, but I don't dare claim it is correct.

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