The hardest part was actually conveying that it wasn't just some print or photo filter, and this is something I still have difficulty with today. Curious about whether people care about this. As somebody who takes a lot of pictures, if somebody could produce one of my photos as a painting using Photoshop that was indistinguishable (or close to it) from a person, I really don't think I'd care. From a business perspect…
Have you ever seen an oil painting up close? There was an article awhile ago about using a 3d printer and scanner to make a "copy" of an oil painting. http://www.designboom.com/art/oce-3d-printer-creates-identic... Until Photoshop filters output STL files and color 3d printers come down in price, humans win.
Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
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Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the reason I don't charge more is it'd just be lining my pockets What's wrong with lining your pockets? This is a business no?
That's not how business works. Unless you want transitory success.
Also, the intent of my question wasn't greedy-capitalism-gouge-the-customer...I meant if a business can charge more for their service and have better margins without pricing out would-be customers or losing them to lower priced competition (neither were his reasons) then why not charge more?
That extra money can be reinvested in this business or another business or used to retire early or go on vacation.
The guy runs a business, make a profit when you can. Every success is transitory here.
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not how business works. Unless you want transitory success.
That is how business works. It's the definition of business. He is not running a charity. It is a for profit business. Also, the intent of my question wasn't greedy-capitalism-gouge-the-customer...I meant if a business can charge more for their service and have better margins without pricing out would-be customers or losing them to lower priced competition (neither were his reasons) then why not charge more? That ext…
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#204However, I wasn't to pleased with your monochrome samples however. Some of the samples look like they were made with an EZ-Tracer.
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#205What's going on with the shipping pricing? > Standard delivery (approx 3 weeks) > Guaranteed (+$15) > Within 25 days (+$20) > Within 15 days (+$20) 3 weeks is 21 days, so assuming "guaranteed" just removes the "approx", why would I ever pay more for "within 25"? Further, why would I ever pay for "within 25" when "within 15" is the same price? Surely this can be condensed to: > Standard delivery (approx 3 weeks) > Gua…
Here's a great bit by Dan Ariely (behavioral economics) that might answer your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOhb4LwAaJk And while I'm sharing Dan Ariely links, here's another one (but I can't tell you what it's about, just watch and wait for it): https://vimeo.com/63062967
Do you know what tool did he used for the text? (I know this sounds weird, I'm trying not to spoil here ;)
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a question! (Even though I could've just asked you this during the interview itself.) You say that you've automated most of the process of running the business: "I've gradually adapted the software over time to automate every process, and generally I only have to step in in rare instances of high-level disputes." How much time do you spend working nowadays? And on what? What's your typical day look like?
For what it's worth, I think "What's your typical day look like?" would be a great question to add to your standard question battery. (Also, I cannot overemphasized how much I like Indiehackers. It's become my new must-read newsletter.)
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really worth getting yourself to a gallery. Painting is applying pigment to a page using a liquid which then dries after it has been applied. This liquid could be water (for watercolours), an acrylic polymer compound (for acrylic paints) or linseed oil (for oil paints). The liquid used has its own properties which mean you can achieve different styles and textures. For instance, water colours absorb into the paper an…
And there's really no comparison between the leather in a Rolls Royce Phantom and the leather in a Honda Accord, and yet somehow Honda moves hundreds of thousands of vehicles a year. My question was not a refutation of the claim that original oil paintings are superior to prints. It was rather an honest attempt to understand the market opportunity of a business and whether the OP believes that a market for prints exi…
A print is machine-made - and obviously so. It's reproducible, so it has no obvious uniqueness.
Some people have tried making one-off prints. That never really works out, because one of the important elements in art objects is visible proof of unique human labour. A print can't supply that, even if it's a digital one-off. The labour may still be there, but it isn't visible in the way that the effort needed to cover a canvas is.
Art is a social signal of disposable capital, aspiration to social status, and ability to command effort. Having an art object legitimises an image and a buyer in a way that a print can't. It also adds a sense of permanence, which some people like when they want to make memories more tangible.
Instapainting capitalises on that by selling to people who want a painting but don't know much about art. I'd guess some of them like the idea of having a painting of a memory, while others like the idea of telling visitors that they had something painted specially.
The bell curve wins again. This turns out to be a much bigger market than the one for people who want a painting and know something about art, and very much bigger [1] than the market for people who buy expensive paintings and know a lot about art.
The idea isn't actually new, but it's possibly the first time it's been done on an industrial scale. Back in the 00s there were services in the UK selling stylised portraits for similar money. They were fairly successful, but limited by having a small pool of artists to draw from. Chinese labour has changed that and made a mass market possible.
[1] But not necessarily more profitable.
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#208I can answer any questions, whether about how to get a great Christmas present, or questions about the article!
Can you pls elaborate on this?
Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is one strategy, but i have chosen to undercut the competition instead since I don't think paying them more would increase quality.
Unless you tie it into their feedback ratings. Presumably your system drops or deprioritizes artists with fewer than 2.5 out of 5 stars, for example. So you could set something like: 3+ stars as the default 1.0 multiplier, 4+ stars gets a 1.1 multiplier, and 4.75+ stars gets a 1.2 multiplier. This may create an incentive for the artist to put in more time and produce better quality, unless the artists are already put…
As we get into a more expanded marketplace with more varying products then wuality and pricing will be more of a varying point.
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#210Not sure if I'm missing something or why nobody else has asked this -- the things you've done "for SEO purposes" all seem like full time jobs on their own! Like: - Building a robot - Neural algorithm AI - Multiplayer 2048 clone Is there any secret to all of these, like outsourcing or anything, or are you just an insane genius? (which I don't doubt actually..)
Sounds like he is a rather intelligent person. I mean 4k in dept are hard, but all that he did (Microservices, Robotics, AI, Games) seems like way over the top of your average person.
The other thing is to start with shortcuts. The robot's hardware I used mainly from a kit, and that left only the software.