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Just get a clip-on BT receiver and use cheap wired headphones. I sweat a LOT and many options e.g. Apple earpods stay in my ear and have not died due to sweat yet after years of workouts (they die for other reasons like me stepping on them).
Any recommendations for which receivers to look at? My search-fu has failed me repeatedly.
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You don't see any merit to beam-forming microphones for noise cancellation, seamless paring experience, Siri access, other-earphone awareness, or lack of tangled wires? You don't remember how iconic the white earbuds have been as a status symbol? It's fine, and even expected, to say, "This product doesn't fit my use-case." But to be unable to fathom why any person on the earth would want to buy the product... that ta…
> You don't see any merit to beam-forming microphones for noise cancellation, seamless paring experience, Siri access, other-earphone awareness, or lack of tangled wires I honestly cannot. They're impressive solutions to problems Apple have created for themselves. Personally, I don't use the built-in microphones in headphones. If I'm speaking to someone, I either hold the phone to my ear, or use speaker phone. Taking…
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> You don't see any merit to beam-forming microphones for noise cancellation, seamless paring experience, Siri access, other-earphone awareness, or lack of tangled wires I honestly cannot. They're impressive solutions to problems Apple have created for themselves. Personally, I don't use the built-in microphones in headphones. If I'm speaking to someone, I either hold the phone to my ear, or use speaker phone. Taking…
Apple created noise and wires? Impressive.
The advanced noise cancelling, pairing, and synchronization tech are solutions to problems that don't exist (or are less pronounced, in the foremost case) with wired headphones.
Can someone explain what this means for their share price?
1. It's a new product, so sales/revenue/profit figures should effectively be relatively unchanged.
2. It's a new product that they announced with a bit of a fanfare, and has attracted a fair amount of attention, so there's some reputational damage from not delivering on the expectations they set. The damage may be nothing more than a short-term dip of share-price if they soon deliver on their promise, but the damage may be a little bit deeper and more extended if they don't deliver soon. It's still a niche product though, so I wouldn't expect any significant shift in share price.
For the issue around AirPods alone, I would expect a dip: perhaps an extremely slight short-term dip, but potentially a longer-term dip if it went uncorrected. That said, Apple have another announcement scheduled tomorrow, so the impact of AirPods on the share-price could quickly be completely immaterial.
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Would you mind elaborating the flaws you see in them? Curious to see other point of views. Personally, I am more of an in-ear earphones user, so I am more drawn to e.g. Bragi earphones, but even then I am missing the option of custom in-ear moulds, so I am sticking with shure audio drivers + Westone bluetooth cable. I do welcome Apple entrance because I could see how they might be able to push development of the sect…
I also prefer in-ear headphones when out and about, so would compare the AirPods to something like the Klipsch S4i [1] Compared to the Klipsch earphones, the AirPods: 1) Are more than twice as expensive ($159 vs. $69) 2) Have significantly worse sound quality 3) Look ugly as sin; wired earphones like the Klipsch ones look just fine, and come in colors other than white 4) Require regular charging (only 5 hours of list…
1) Are more than twice as expensive
2) Have significantly worse sound quality
3) Look ugly as sin; wired telephones look just fine
4) Require regular charging; wired telephones require no charging at all
5) Are considerably easier to lose or misplace
6) Will have a finite life, as the battery wears out; standard wired telephones will last forever if you look after them
7) Are only compatible with current generation cellular networks; standard wired telephones have universal compatibility
8) Will likely be depreciated within a couple of generations; wired telephones will endure
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Apple created noise and wires? Impressive.
There's no need to be obtuse. The advanced noise cancelling, pairing, and synchronization tech are solutions to problems that don't exist (or are less pronounced, in the foremost case) with wired headphones.
The others are certainly wireless problems, but some people prefer wireless for a variety of reasons. Lots of manufacturers sell wireless headphones. To say that Apple created those problems makes no sense.
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9 times out of 10, "I can't fathom why anyone would want product X" can be swapped with "I don't want product X." It's often used due to mental laziness or lack of empathy. I personally don't want a pair either, but I can certainly imagine why it appeals to people.
It's not for lack of effort. I've racked my brains and I simply cannot understand why anyone would prefer these to existing wired or wireless headphones.
"I simply cannot understand why anyone would prefer these to existing wireless headphones."
I've had plenty of frustrations trying to get bluetooth headsets to pair with a single device, let alone multiple devices, so anything that makes that easier is valuable to me.
How valuable is another question: another $10, another $50, another $100? That's pricing for the market to decide. I can recognise the technical improvement, which just leaves the question of the monetary value of that improvement.
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Apple created noise and wires? Impressive.
There's no need to be obtuse. The advanced noise cancelling, pairing, and synchronization tech are solutions to problems that don't exist (or are less pronounced, in the foremost case) with wired headphones.
“It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them.” — Steve Jobs
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There's no need to be obtuse. The advanced noise cancelling, pairing, and synchronization tech are solutions to problems that don't exist (or are less pronounced, in the foremost case) with wired headphones.
How is noise related to wireless? I was not aware that wired headphones enjoyed any advantage there, and I can't see how they would. The others are certainly wireless problems, but some people prefer wireless for a variety of reasons. Lots of manufacturers sell wireless headphones. To say that Apple created those problems makes no sense.
a) Placing the microphone further from a person's mouth, or at least, removing the option for people to hold a wired microphone close to their mouth;
b) Significantly reducing the distance between microphone and speaker.
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How is noise related to wireless? I was not aware that wired headphones enjoyed any advantage there, and I can't see how they would. The others are certainly wireless problems, but some people prefer wireless for a variety of reasons. Lots of manufacturers sell wireless headphones. To say that Apple created those problems makes no sense.
I'm no sound engineer, but intuitively the design of the AirPods slightly exacerbates noise cancellation issues by: a) Placing the microphone further from a person's mouth, or at least, removing the option for people to hold a wired microphone close to their mouth; b) Significantly reducing the distance between microphone and speaker.
I don't think the distance between the speaker and microphone matters. Canceling out the noise you're emitting isn't hard with modern signal processing.