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Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#62
Because people, even very good people, especially very good young people put up with it. I did. Would I now? No. If a Google recruiter contacts me now I say pass. Ain't nobody got time for that (at a certain age or when you've gone through it enough).

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#63

I am not defending Google here but plenty of reasons I would guess: - Lot of people want to work for Google. Plenty of supply - Cost/Benefit. The cost of contacting everyone is not worth the benefit. Probably too many applicants to respond to - Because they can. They are Google. - They are big. Perhaps a certain division/HR team is worse than others. So it could come down to specific HR team who is the culprit. I bet…

I interviewed at MS in 2000, they said the same thing during the interview to one of my questions "Because we can. We are MS.". My response is probably why I did not get the job.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#64
post #4

They pay a lot

Unless that's changed very recently, they seem to be convinced that the perceived prestige of working for Google is worth a lot and thus they can get away with paying average or below average. At least that's been my experience.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#65
I've interviewed there a couple of times over the years and I was less than impressed by the process.

Doesn't stop people from applying and they seem to end up with the candidates they want, so it's probably working for them. They have to standardize on some process, this one seems to produce the desired results and with the number of candidates they get, I assume that they're not worried about false negatives, but are worried about false positives...

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#66
I had a good experience with Google. The recruiter contacted me at every chance with updates about where things were. It took two months from first being contacted but after I had another offer they sped up the process, scheduling an in person interview two weeks out. After that it was still three weeks until I received an official offer. What probably made the biggest difference was having another offer on the table. It put more urgency on getting me through the process.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#68
post #8

Because they're huge, they have gobs of money and influence, and people want to work for them in the hopes of getting a piece of both. Greed is a powerful force, especially when backed by a complaint ideology.

curious what you mean by 'complaint ideology' ?

I mean, "Compliant", but autocorrect bunged me again. My bad!

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#69

Google called me back and let me know that they position they were hiring for was filled and that they would keep my information on file. Have been getting their recruiters calling every 6 months since, and that was almost 8 years ago now.

Sounds like they kept your info on file tho?

That they have. I don't really mind them reaching out every 6 months personally...

Re: Ask HN: Why does Google get away with such bad recruiting practices?

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn't go through front-door recruiting. They sought him out. He's had similar roles at major banks. ...and he still had to go through that process. Do 'mere mortals' have to do 5+ in-person interviews?

I think their point was that for SVP type positions, especially at Google, if they want you you don't go through multiday interviews. They make a pitch and give you an offer. But even then that is unlikely. I think what might be happening is some of the titles don't match between banks and tech. At a bank there are 1000s of "VPs" and so your friend may be at that level but really in Google and most tech companies tha…

I've encountered so many VP's from Goldman Sachs and similar companies that I can't believe the title means very much.
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