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West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

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Re: West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

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I know. It's largely the literalists that go off the really deep end.

Literalists would be more likely to want to act as good stewards of creation.

Technically true, except those who claim to stick to a literal interpretation of the book are much more likely to perform a selective reading of it, keep what they like, discard what they don't. Ends up being just another bullshit name.

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Bloomberg rarely does proper math. Melt both polar caps and the ice of Greenland, and you barely get global sea level rise by very few inches. Antarctics as a whole is 90% of the world land-based ice. 29 mln cubic km. All of the floating ice is around 3 mln cubic km. It may look that it can cause 60m high sea level rise, but most of this will be evaporated into milder global climate and stronger rivers. We shall have…

I disagree with your comment, the massive ocean gyres and global weather patterns will be severely impacted, with results that are totally unpredictable, including a drastic mix of ecosystems and acidification of the oceans.

On top of this... for the love of all that is holy, basic english would be "*HAS seen".

Re: West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

#123

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Literalists would be more likely to want to act as good stewards of creation.

Technically true, except those who claim to stick to a literal interpretation of the book are much more likely to perform a selective reading of it, keep what they like, discard what they don't. Ends up being just another bullshit name.

So what you're saying is "there are religious people and I don't like them"?

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Coastal cities are unlikely to be flooded in our lifetimes. We're looking at about 1m [1] sea level rise in 100 years, or 50cm in our lifetime. That means coastal cities will face more severe storms, not ending up submerged. [2] "Pfeffer adds estimates of sea level rise due to thermal expansion and ice melting to calving approximations and concludes that SLR by the end of the century will range 0.8 to 2.0 m above pre…

Isn't Miami already having problems with flooding at high tide? It doesn't seem like it would take that big of a change from them to have flooding problems when it isn't high tide.

Yes, parts of Miami flood regularly. See http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/12/21/the-siege-of-mi....

Moreover, Miami is built on porous limestone; sinkholes are everywhere (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/03/18/notes-from-unde...) and will grow whenever salt water pours in, so Miami sinks. They don't even need rising sea levels to make things worse there.

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#125

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Renewable energy. Once things get bad enough the world will wake up and renewables will become huge.

I agree that renewables are going to be huge but I don't know what companies are going to get rich off of it. What will allow individual companies to build good profit margins? The biggest PV efficiency boost being implemented in the mainstream right now (passivated emitter cell structure) was invented in Australia in the 1980s but the patents expired before it was implemented on a large scale. Core patents for heter…

You can get insanely rich by betting on a trend and executing competently. Not "Forbes profile piece" rich, but definitely "never worry about money and pass that down a generation or two" rich.

I think the question you're asking is "how does a millionaire/billionaire multiply their net worth in a decade or two", while that question I'm answering is "how do I go from salary slave to capitalist class in a decade or two"

Re: West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

#126

Bloomberg rarely does proper math. Melt both polar caps and the ice of Greenland, and you barely get global sea level rise by very few inches. Antarctics as a whole is 90% of the world land-based ice. 29 mln cubic km. All of the floating ice is around 3 mln cubic km. It may look that it can cause 60m high sea level rise, but most of this will be evaporated into milder global climate and stronger rivers. We shall have…

I disagree with your comment, the massive ocean gyres and global weather patterns will be severely impacted, with results that are totally unpredictable, including a drastic mix of ecosystems and acidification of the oceans. On top of this... for the love of all that is holy, basic english would be "*HAS seen".

No prob, we'll see. I shall put English Grammar to my testament, to enable our grandgrandchildren decide who was right. I doubt, however that this grammatical norm will survive the next global glacial event.

Re: West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

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post #116

Bloomberg rarely does proper math. Melt both polar caps and the ice of Greenland, and you barely get global sea level rise by very few inches. Antarctics as a whole is 90% of the world land-based ice. 29 mln cubic km. All of the floating ice is around 3 mln cubic km. It may look that it can cause 60m high sea level rise, but most of this will be evaporated into milder global climate and stronger rivers. We shall have…

You're forgetting thermal expansion (And it takes decades for increases in atmospheric temperatures to cause a likewise increase in water temperatures.)

I actually bet on thermal contraction and the new ice age to come faster than melting of all of the polar ice we have today.

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Dude, you don't even read your own sources. > "Studies show that globally, the decreases in Arctic sea ice far exceed the increases in Antarctic sea ice." This is exactly what they say in the Bloomberg video also, if you had even dared to challange your incorrect beliefs.

I understand the concept of a continent is difficult for you to grasp, but it's ok.

Please stop. We ban accounts that continue to comment like this.

Re: West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

#129
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Don't feed the troll, it will just encourage more of the same behavior.

I'm tired of the "climate change is settled science" bit, okay--for centuries, people believed the sun revolved around the earth and nobody was allowed to question that. The answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not censorship. And I'm with the poster who talked about "bullshitting" because climate change has a lot of the smells of that very thing.

Mmm, so we should go off how the science "smells" vs what it says?

Also, for everyone who suggests that belief in the reality of climate change is politically motivated - what is the actual motivation? Sure plenty stand to profit from the sustainable energy industry, but if it was all a hoax in the first place, why would so many be pushing to go the hard way? Why not just throw in with traditional energy industries? Obviously the answer is that only one side in this "debate" is primarily politically motivated, and it's the side that stands to lose a lot of easy money, not the side that stands to make some lesser amount of hard money.

Re: West Antarctica Begins to Destabilize with ‘Intense Unbalanced Melting’

#130
We cant stop it, can we at least do ecology transplants?

Little patches of nature system, taking from destabilizing temperature zones to areas where they could thrive?

Basically, give up the concept of a invasive species, and speed a adaption up that would occur anyway?

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