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Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

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Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

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post #14

Nothing like exploiting people to make a living. Maybe the people doing the actual paintings should get that $32/mo? Gross US imperialism at its finest. So embarrassed to be from this country. FYI: Exploiting artists isn't some kind of disruptive innovation. Ever wonder why the arts are much less likely to adopt open source licensing? People like this jerk. Oh wait, I forgot. They aren't real artists because they hap…

We operate almost exactly like Etsy or Ebay in this regard, we just don't expose the marketplace to the front end because we offer only a single product type (photo to painting) at the moment. Many of our sellers are listed on Ebay or Etsy too (at higher prices).

So what is your percentage per work?

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#43
post #14

Nothing like exploiting people to make a living. Maybe the people doing the actual paintings should get that $32/mo? Gross US imperialism at its finest. So embarrassed to be from this country. FYI: Exploiting artists isn't some kind of disruptive innovation. Ever wonder why the arts are much less likely to adopt open source licensing? People like this jerk. Oh wait, I forgot. They aren't real artists because they hap…

Seems quite the opposite to me - he provided these artists with work and an income. The value was in creating the portal that connected consumers with producers (the artists), and taking a cut for this service. Everybody wins.

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#44
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm fairly certain it worked. It's more like the page gets lots of link, thus lots of clout, and I link to Instapainting from that page, which means I transfer some of that clout. And Google can't classify Instapainting.com as a "photo to painting" site. It just knows it's a site that contains some content. Since Yahoo.com would get better rankings even with disparate topics under the domain.

What makes you certain? I am fairly certain that the world's best search engine is not falling for that. How can we decide who is right?

I don't think it's necessarily tricking google. Again, the page has clout, and not everyone can simply make a popular page. By associating Instapainting with that page, it's saying Instapainting knows that guy who made that popular game, so Instapainting should have more visibility too.

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#45
Great business, congratulations!

Could you elaborate on how your shipping pipeline works from China to US/worldwide? Also if there were any problems shipping works of art, e.g. if I upload a picture of Starry Night, an artist paints that and it is shipped to me, would that cause a problem at the border?

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#46
post #14

Nothing like exploiting people to make a living. Maybe the people doing the actual paintings should get that $32/mo? Gross US imperialism at its finest. So embarrassed to be from this country. FYI: Exploiting artists isn't some kind of disruptive innovation. Ever wonder why the arts are much less likely to adopt open source licensing? People like this jerk. Oh wait, I forgot. They aren't real artists because they hap…

Seems quite the opposite to me - he provided these artists with work and an income. The value was in creating the portal that connected consumers with producers (the artists), and taking a cut for this service. Everybody wins.

He literally listed SEO as the most important part of the business. Which means he seized control of a location(Google ranking) and then sold it back to those who could not compete with his Google rank. No sure where "Everybody wins" in that situation.

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#47
post #34

I can answer any questions, whether about how to get a great Christmas present, or questions about the article!

I have a question about the concept of hiring artists and sourcing from factories in China. What does Instapainting do—in terms of due diligence—to ensure safe working conditions and fair labor practices for workers in the factories that make the product?

We're just a marketplace, like Etsy or Ebay behind the scenes.

That being said, I have personally visited many of the sellers and for advanced products such as highly detailed portrait paintings (the ones sold on Instapainting.com), the artists always work from their home and are independent contractors. It's only for large quantity mass replica work that are actually done in factories, and I've visited those factories as well, however they do not provide the detailed portraits type of work.

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#48
post #8

Ug, is it just me, or does that he took money before actually having anyone to paint the pictures seem unethical? Would people have ordered if they had of known there were no artists as yet, or for that matter the artist were going to be friends of the website owner?

TBH there's many cases where people sell things before actually having the capability to deliver them, as long as the customer gets the goods at the end of the day, I don't really see the problem. Heck if you look at the idea of Kickstarter and Indiegogo they're a whole market predicated on the idea of buying things that don't exist yet (and in many cases those things are harder to deliver than the creators suggest i…

Yeah. Not only that, the money you give on KS has a risk of not being refunded if a clusterf*ck happens. In OPs story, he can just send a refund.

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#49
post #31

When the 2048 game came out, I quickly hacked up a 2 player version and placed it under the Instapainting.com domain for SEO purposes. Does this really work? Does Google think you are a better site for ordering paintings because you host a game? I tend to think Google is smarter by now. In fact, I would expect that Google almost exclusively relies on real user behaviour these days.

I mean, there's a lot more to ranking than that... but yeah, that helps to raise your domain authority. It's just one part of the equation, though, and generally speaking, Google does a decent job of detecting black hat techniques and penalizing for them.

Probably 3/4 of the blog articles out there are written for SEO purposes.

Re: Instapainting – From $4k in debt to $32k/mo in passive revenue with no employees

#50

I can answer any questions, whether about how to get a great Christmas present, or questions about the article!

How do you learn the business part of what you are doing? I can and do program fancy websites quickly, but I fail to see how I could monetize it. I mean about things that scale well, are kind of low-work and mostly an experiment. So, how do you pick which experiments to try? Do you have like many ideas constantly like that? Do you try few of them until one sticks? How do you know you will be able to pull it off later on?
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